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________________________________ From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Men only, Oh dear Aunt Share, this is not you - the other Share that's destroying your innocent purity. That neurotic b$tch up in Fairfield that's a sweet talking b$tch that hides her delusions behind inane platitudes, visiting every healer, Guru, light worker. She who levels the playing field a la Curtis by her - we all have positive and negative qualities BS. She, like many neurotic birches that I have seen around Amma's cult that accuse men of psychological rape. Yes a little grumpy dear Auntie but you have made me feel better. I love you. Ravi On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: >dear Ravi, pray tell, who is this other Share and how dare she join FFL! >Though I did not break into applause of any kind, I have been enjoying the >posts of Curtis. And those of just about everybody else. As probably just >about everybody else has been enjoying mine (-: > >But why are you picking on Marek? Are you becoming a grumpy boots down there >in sunny San Diego? > > > > >________________________________ > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:47 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Men only, > > > >Oh Curtis - I have to say this is a really beautiful slick presentation which >will make the Steves and Shares of this list break into a spontaneous applause. > > >However remember the old adage - you can't deceive everyone every time. > > >The magic you weave with your tricks, sleight of hand deceptions is a sight to >behold. > > >You start off with leveling the play field on FFL for your pal Barry - all the >voices on FFL are equaled to a robotic set of POV's devoid of any personal >subjectivity of individual posters, devoid of any biases of posters creeping >into their posts. > > >It's all POV's - the voice of Ann is no different from Barry, the posts of >Emily no different from azgrey. > > >And you Curtis are this supremely disinterested, impartial poster who is >constantly adjusting his POV based on other's POV's. > > >But wait, what do we have here? > > >Well Barry has likes and dislikes as anyone else. Oh you go further - he gives >it back good to people who give the poor guy a hard time. > > >And then Judy is someone who directs her toxic energy towards a stranger (you >!!) on an internet forum. Robin is an insincere, condescending fool who >insults others. > > >Oh boy your theory has completely broken down here. > > >His Holiness is now no impartial, disinterested poster - he is delivering his >judgement with impunity. > > >Curtis - you seem to really crave for adulation and praise from your pack of >males. It is so perverse and juvenile - this male pack mentality can be >forgiven in the teenagers of Steubenville not a bunch of 60 year old's who >claim to be philosophers, lawyers, educators, artists. > > >You and Marek are blind to this male pack mentality that is so eager to makeup >for the flaws of your pack - the Barry's and azgrey's and their vile filth on >FFL - disgusting and pitiful. Your dishonesty and deviousness is sickening. > >On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM, curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> >wrote: > > >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" >>> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: >>> > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Your analysis might apply to people he does not like. >>> >>> Curtis, Barry does not like anyone who disagrees with him.> >> >> I don't see a lot of people not agreeing with Barry. I see a lot of people attacking him personally. >> >> >><His criteria for liking or not liking someone are very transparent and quite >>simple. They include more than the one I just mentioned, but ultimately he >>dislikes personal challenge coming from others.> >> >> He expressed his dislike for you and Robin before any of that happened. ( His objection to my use of dislike here is noted.) >> >> >>< If that challenge takes the form of anything resembling a different >>viewpoint or one that makes him have to question his very rigid beliefs or >>one that requires him to retract, apologize or question his position he will >>take that as a personal attack or as a sign of boringness, cuntness, small >>mindedness or stupidity on the part of that person.> >> >> I might have to see an example of this. I am more familiar with the predictable "Barry is bad" meme that flows freely here. I see more actual personal attacks than a challenge to beliefs. And I am not denying that he both gives as good as he gets and sometime initiates the insult cycle as he did with you and Robin. But since then the nature of your posts about him have been more insult to belief challenging as has Robin's. >> >> >>> >>> > He is not open to being vulnerable to people who he does not like. >>> >>> Barry is never vulnerable on this forum. Ever.> >>> >>> > Sometimes this is people who attack him, but not always. He didn't like >>> > you right off. So you only see the version of Barry that applies to you, >>> > a person he does not respect. >>> >>> Barry doesn't begin to have the tools to "deal" with Robin. He is so far >>> out of his depth, his comfort zone his perception of what is unknown or >>> possible that to actually interact on even the most superficial level with >>> Robin would require something Barry simply does not possess or refuses to >>> acknowledge. It is kind of like asking a seal to run the 100m dash in 10 >>> seconds on dry land. Not possible.> >> >> I guess we don't hold the same lofty view of Robin's intellect. His attack on Barry was actually very simple but he stretched it out endlessly. And his response to my challenge to his belief was not met with anything close to thoughtful dialogue. it was his routine. All insults masquerading as if he was considering my points. A snarky farce dripping with the insincerity and condescension that is his trademark. >> >>For me, intellectually there is not too much there there, just a penchant for >>wordiness. And he recycles his insults, he has used the same claims about >>me and others here. >> >> >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > > BW, then, does not allow the reader, either consciously or >>> > > unconsciously, to derive any experience of what kind of experience BW >>> > > must be having as he so slovenly and insincerely (the latter is quite >>> > > subtle and can easily be missed) argues for his position.> >>> > >>> > The digs aside (slovenly? insincerely?) I don't believe he sees any >>> > reason to share anything with people he does not like or respect. >>> >>> This excuse of "respect" is not about that at all. That is a convenient but >>> erroneous description of what is really going on. It isn't about what Barry >>> feels about the other person it is what the other person makes Barry feel >>> about himself and THAT is what Barry dislikes.> >> >> You may be giving yourself a bit too much credit for insight into his motives here. I have never seen you interact with him in a detailed way to warrant your confidence in this theory. I just don't believe you are in a position to know this from your interactions with him or your observations of him. You frankly don't seem very sensitive yourself when you deal with him. And I don't really blame you given your contentious history with him, but it doesn't lead to knowing much about him beyond the insult persona you are both running toward him and getting from him. >> >> >>< When he is made to feel inadequate he will point his finger at the other >>person and claim they are to blame; they are too boring or stupid or >>dogmatic. He will never take responsibility for himself and the reasons he >>feels the way he does. It will always be about the other guy.> >> >> Funny thing is that I could say this about Judy or Robin or Jim, plenty of people here. But the concept of taking "responsibility" for the reasons he feels the way he does is loaded with a lot of presumptions that I don't share. I think many people try to rub his nose in what they believe are his reasons for how he feels as you did above. Who would like to have their nose rubbed in that kind of unfriendly assumptiveness. I don't. Robin is a fan of this kind of attack and if you don't cower to his self-assumed special perceptiveness it is used as evidence of some other flaw. It is a double bind mind-fuck and very unpleasant. Did you accept Barry's assumptions about your motives on FFL? Of course not and I don't think you should have. But that sword cuts both ways. >> >> >>> >>> >He just calls it as he sees it and moves on. His blasts are not an opening >>> >for a dialogue, they are just projections of his POV, more writing >>> >exercise than conversation. >>> >>> Exactly. >>> > >>> > If you look at the list of people who have received such attention they >>> > often have some similar traits that Barry is outspoken about not >>> > respecting or liking. I have a very good idea of his POV from his pieces >>> > contrary to your perspective. If a new poster showed up here today I >>> > could probably predict with good accuracy how Barry would react to them. >>> > It was easy to predict that you were not gunna be friends. >>> >>> Yes, I will give you that. Barry IS predictable. Ridiculously so. This is a >>> man who lives in a world that is bound and known and very limited. He can >>> only venture so far with a person - new acquaintance or old. When he hits >>> the property line, where the boundaries end, he stops dead. And those >>> boundaries are those determined by his own limitations of self. >> >> I disagree with this assessment. Barry does not live in a world that is bound or limited, quite the contrary, he has traveled a lot of very interesting roads and continues to. I don't know anyone who has moved their life to more places since I have known them. He is perfectly comfortable dropping in to a country with a new language every few years and adapting to the local culture. And he has certainly been down more spiritual paths than most here. Can you really say he has a more limited world than people here who have never traveled as he has, or exposed to just TM for self-development? >> >>Limited? Not in my opinion. The diversity of his exposure and the lack of >>his limits is the most interesting thing about him for me. >> >> >>> > >>> > So your statements probably do apply to you. You may not have the >>> > ability to see where he is coming from and he seems hidden from you. >>> >>> I don't think so Curtis. Many people have pretty good ideas of how Barry >>> functions but Robin's today took the proverbial cake; it was far and away >>> the most sophisticated reading of the man and one that you might have a >>> chance of comprehending but Barry never will for, if he could, it would >>> disprove what Robin wrote and what I have just said. Not that we said or >>> are saying the same thing. >> >> I comprehended it, and appreciate your confidence that I might be able to. I didn't find it sophisticated,at all, it was Robin routine 101, and since I spent some time as its target, it is quite familiar. With your background I'm surprised you don't see it as formulaic. But then you think Judy is brilliant and have said so many times, so I think we have different standards we are applying in that area. Robin is obscuring very simple concepts in a word flood. >> >> >>> >>> >Do you see Judy as any more vulnerable and interested in really >>> >interacting with a person when she is doing her Judy thing? Are you or me >>> >for that matter? Once we size someone up as not being worth the trouble, >>> >or that they are openly hostile toward us, we all shut down the two way >>> >conversation and might say something with no intention to be open
