No biggie. Yeah, money is not the determining factor, and there is a whole lot of stuff, angles, perspectives, and choices. What you pay for was closer to what Ann said - commitment and investment. Sorry for the confusion, and I really do not arbitrarily insult people.:-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I went back and read your response to Ann, and now I get it, navashok. > > Okay, so I understand. My reaction was to this sentence, and I didn't know it > was a reference to something else. I had attributed it to something I said > about my experience with other techniques, which I had shared here before. > Because of the sentence that came before it. So it was actually a > mis-attribution. > > Sorry for that. > > If I had known this, I had not reacted in this way. OTOH, I do not follow > everything that goes on between you and Barry. I'm also quite busy, so I > don't read everything. > > I had actually sent a post before, that was more to the points you were > making. > > So, to conclude my point: > > I think there are free things, free spiritual endeavors that work very well, > that they come at no cost does not say anything about their quality or lack > thereof; in fact I am involved in such an endeavor for many years. Actively > and passive. > > That does not mean that anything like commitment, purpose and practice does > not play a role. Of course it does. So one 'gives' oneself to something. But > that cannot be substituted by money. There are many such endeavors, some more > known, some less known, but the less known are not less valuable. > > > Jumping into the middle of something while making assumptions about me is a > > great way to get upset over nothing. > > > > You missed my earlier reference. Barry said that Ann had a stick up her > > butt. I asked him if he was jealous of this imagined stick, as he had, in > > the past, commented about a picture of himself standing next to a petite > > Asian woman, and Barry remarked at the time that he had his finger *up her > > butt*. He hasn't replied, so I thought I'd remind him. > > > > Get it now? Please let me know, if you do not, and I will do my best to > > further clarify, though it is getting downright clinical in here. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > I did not insult anyone. You are the one full of it - go get your head > > > straight. This is ridiculous. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dude, you sound incoherent. I cannot figure out what you are trying > > > > > to say. Did Vipassonthat suddenly become more popular because you > > > > > didn't like what I said? Or was it the rather rude reminder of B's > > > > > past behavior that was verbotten? Spell it out, please. > > > > > > > > What's got 'B' to do with it? I am not B.If you insult people you have > > > > to take the shit, and *you* should know to whom you respond to, right? > > > > Is this a Judy implant to think that anyone who on occasion agrees > > > > with B, is open to serve as a substitute for him? It's easier to have > > > > just one target and one enemy. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You get what you pay for. That is why most people have never > > > > > > > heard of these two meditation programs - No one with any name > > > > > > > recognition has found them to be successful, so rather than > > > > > > > generating interest, or even controversy, these two marginal > > > > > > > techniques are relegated to the backwaters of spiritual concern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you can amuse yourself by finding all the other free and > > > > > > > useless forms of meditation available around the globe, and then > > > > > > > please share them with us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is, when you aren't sticking your finger someplace warm and > > > > > > > stinky.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > You are really dump and stupid, aren't you? Is this the kind of > > > > > > level you have reached in your supposed enlightenment? Do you have > > > > > > to say this, because you feel so threatened that people make > > > > > > experiences outside TM? You don't even know what you are talking > > > > > > about - copy all the neo-advaitic teachings, mix them with a little > > > > > > TM, and don't even know where they are coming from, right? These > > > > > > teachings were all given free, you just use - abuse them quite > > > > > > obviously. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.giveforyouth.org/microprojects/teach-meditation-to-40-formerly-incarcerated-youth/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 40 at a cost of $10,000 = $250 per student. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 other projects: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.giveforyouth.org/microprojects/teach-meditation-to-25-domestic-abuse-survivors/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25 at a cost of $6,250 = $250 per student. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.giveforyouth.org/microprojects/teach-meditation-to-18-former-child-prostitutes/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18 at a cost of $4,500 = $250 per student. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if this is a matching funds project, or if this > > > > > > > > > is a new pricing structure for the DLF... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me that $250 per student is a reasonable cost > > > > > > > > > for TM instruction by anyone's standards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I agree that this is a good sign, and FAR > > > > > > > > more reasonable a cost for learning to meditate, > > > > > > > > TM-style, I think your phrase "by anyone's > > > > > > > > standards" reflects a lack of research on what > > > > > > > > other types of meditation cost to learn. For > > > > > > > > example, the results of 30 seconds of Googling: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vipassana Mediation: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much does the course cost? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each student who attends a Vipassana course is > > > > > > > > given this gift by a previous student. There is > > > > > > > > no charge for either the teaching, or for room > > > > > > > > and board. All Vipassana courses worldwide are > > > > > > > > run on a strictly voluntary donation basis. At > > > > > > > > the end of your course, if you have benefited > > > > > > > > from the experience, you are welcome to donate > > > > > > > > for the coming course, according to your volition > > > > > > > > and your means. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sahaja Yoga Meditation: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether in the public, community, or business > > > > > > > > sectors, Sahaja Yoga Meditation is available > > > > > > > > without charge to the general public and to > > > > > > > > many schools, universities, hospitals, commun- > > > > > > > > ity centers and major corporations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know, neither of these organizations > > > > > > > > has assets in the billions of dollars. Just sayin'... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
