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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
>
> Meditate,Worship the Unified Field.
> Seek beauty;
> Give service, &
> Knowledge pursue.
> Be trustworthy ever, in all that you do.
> Hold fast onto health,
> And your work glorify,
> And you will be happy, in the law of the Unified Field.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yea, I finally got a chance to reread it as well, and I think it was
an
> > easy mistake to make on my part. Thanks for the acknowledgement.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Rereading my original post I can see how you would think I was
> > referring to Girish - but I was referring to Marshy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:17 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual
harassment
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed.Â
Now
> > let me make sure I have it straight. Bevan and the rest had to
know
> > what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged
> > activities. You are speaking of this as though you have first
hand
> > knowledge of this. An is it okay for me to use the word
"alleged",
> > or is that just some old fashioned western concept.
> > > And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi
was a
> > typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore
declare
> > that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a
clickable
> > link I might add). Â
> > > I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in
> > positions of authority in the TMO. I think that would be well
to be
> > remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact
and
> > therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and
a
> > stretch.
> > > But let's be real. That is your usual method of operation.
> > > And may I anticipate your retort.
> > > "To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real
> > TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive
perceptions."
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and
all
> > the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to,
they
> > condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people
> > financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his
"legacy" -
> > they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake
master
> > at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior -
nothing
> > else.
> > > >
> > > > There never have been and never will be women in positions of
power
> > in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly
> > typical male Hindu
> > > > views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me,
let's
> > see what some Indian women have to say on the matter:
> > > >
> > > > "For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is
as
> > > > natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe
> > fasts,
> > > > bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished,
penis-laden
> > > > offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened
with
> > the
> > > > debit side of the accountââ¬"the girl child. For burden
she
> > isââ¬"practically
> > > > every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a
few
> > > > areas where matrilineal systems existââ¬"must be familiar
with
> > the idea
> > > > that a girl is ââ¬Å"paraya dhan,ââ¬ï¿½Ã¢â¬"the
> > treasure of anotherââ¬â¢s home. Exiled at
> > > > birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her
> > ââ¬Å"trueââ¬ï¿½ family.
> > > > The word ââ¬Å"treasureââ¬ï¿½ should not fool us. We
are
> > commodities, chattel,
> > > > goods. Why else would we have to pay a groomââ¬â¢s
family
> > for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands?"
> > > >
> > > > from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and
that
> > > > women are there to serve them however they please. This is only
> > echoed
> > > > in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the
west,
> > in
> > > > which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually
> > > > harassing the principal female character into submission. In the
> > world
> > > > of Indian melodramas, a "no" will inevitably turn to a "yes"
after a
> > few song and dance routines in the rain, of course.
> > > >
> > > > Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major
> > political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes
> > > > against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape.
Additionally,
> > Indian jurisprudence sanctions a "virginity test" to determine the
> > credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a
> > > > doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine
the
> > > > presence or absence of the hymen and the general "laxity" of the
> > vagina, and presumably, the victim herself."
> > > > From the page:
> > http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Susan wayback71@
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:30 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual
> > harassment
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÂ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"
> > > > > <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have
> > sexual
> > > > > harassment guideline for its employees and officers?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Probably not, I imagine they still hope that the stuff
they
> > > > > > > > teach about spontaneous right action and coherent
behaviour
> > > > > > > > is actually true and they therefore don't need a legal
fall
> > > > > > > > back.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But if this story is true, it isn't an employee it's the
guy
> > > > > > > > at the top and he isn't going to want harassment
guidelines
> > > > > > > > is he?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Still, at least he hasn't claimed he was "helping her
with
> > > > > > > > her karma". I look forward to a full report in TM News
> > > > > > > > magazine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the TM administration going to do about him? [?]
The
> > Girish
> > > > > story seems to broaden everyday. Do a google 'news' search for
> > "Girish
> > > > > Varma". He comes right up now, Times of India every day:
> > Molestation,
> > > > > extortion, attemped murder, Sex in the back seat of an Audi.
> > Five-Star
> > > > > Hotels. Other women come forward. It's very unfortunate.
Jeeesus.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The guy could take the whole Indian TM sub-continent down
with
> > him
> > > > > and TM Europe and the Americas too. Who would want to be
> > associated
> > > > > with him?
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-sarasw\
\
> > \
> > > > > ati-foundatio-board-of-directors/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Agreed, he could take the entire TMO down. At the very
least,
> > there
> > > > > will need to be major restructuring, looking over finances
(that
> > is if
> > > > > there is anything left for the TMO as opposed to the family
> > members!).
> > > > > Girish could be the legacy that gets remembered. Starts with
MMY
> > and the
> > > > > Beatles and the finale is 50 years later with Girish.
Somewhere
> > here are
> > > > > lessons to be learned. It could be that TM-USA will separate
from
> > > > > India. Seems in India it was just a big business with a cover
> > story of
> > > > > education.. Here, we raised the money for them, and also did
the
> > > > > scientific research part.
> > > > > > Buck, are there big raja meetings to discuss this stuff? I
wold
> > think
> > > > > that Bevan and JOhn and RajaRaam are pretty worried.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan, Yep one should wonder and hope that everyone on this
Board
> > of
> > > > > Directors list is thinking a lot about this. Notice there are
no
> > women
> > > > > on our SBS Foundation Board:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there are no women. Because I believe that MMY did not want
> > them on the board, right? It would be a real shame if the actions of
one
> > or a few undid all the years of genuine devotion on the part of many
on
> > this list, and Tony and John and Bevan. Whether you like them or
not,
> > they are devotees and have, imo, worked hard to make MMY"s ideas a
> > reality.
> > > > Probably after MMY died they had serious misgivings about Girish
and
> > wanted to remove him, but they waited knowing MMY had picked him.
Graft
> > can happen anywhere, but I think organizations that are more mature
have
> > learned to have committees and oversight at every stage, especially
when
> > it comes to money issues. The temptation is just so great. And then
> > there is the sex issue. Tough one, that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-sarasw\
\
> > \
> > > > > ati-foundatio-board-of-directors/
> > > > >
> >
<http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-saras\
\
> > \
> > > > > wati-foundatio-board-of-directors/>
> > > > >
> > > > > * Avinoam Shlomo Barkol ââ¬" Educator
> > > > > Ramat-Gan, Israel
> > > > > * John H. Black, M.A. ââ¬" Educator
> > > > > Palo Alto, CA, USA
> > > > > * Rafael David ââ¬" Business Entrepreneur
> > > > > Vero Beach, FL, USA
> > > > > * Howard Martin Chandler, Ph.D. ââ¬" Educator
> > > > > Boston, MA , USA
> > > > > * James Kevin Egan, Ph.D. ââ¬" Business Entrepreneur
> > > > > Boone, NC, USA
> > > > > * Hugh Richard Alan Godfrey ââ¬" Retired Businessman
> > > > > London, England
> > > > > * Shawn Jeffrey Herman, MBA ââ¬" Retired Real Estate
Manager
> > > > > Palo Alto, CA, USA
> > > > > * Richard Glenn Ross, B.F.A. ââ¬" Educator
> > > > > Fairfield, IA, USA
> > > > > * Harris Kaplan ââ¬" Retired Investment Fund Manager
> > > > > Boone, NC, USA
> > > > > * Steve Rubin ââ¬" Retired Businessman
> > > > > Sebastian, FL, USA
> > > > > * John Hagelin. Ph.D. ââ¬" Quantum Physicist and
Educator
> > > > > Fairfield, IA, USA
> > > > > * John Fagan. Ph.D. ââ¬" Research Scientist and Activist
> > > > > Fairfield, IA, USA
> > > > > * Graham Anthony de Freitas, Ph.D. ââ¬" Administrator
and
> > Educator
> > > > > Fairfield, IA, USA
> > > > > * Ior Guglielmi, M.D. ââ¬" Medical Doctor
> > > > > Verona, Italy
> > > > > * Robert LoPinto ââ¬" Retired Businessman
> > > > > Rockville, MD, USA
> > > > > * Thomas Elijah Stanley ââ¬"Philanthropist
> > > > > Fairfield, IA, USA
> > > > > * Robert G. Wynne, Ph.D. ââ¬"Mayor
> > > > > Maharishi Vedic City, IA, USA
> > > > > * Charoen-Rajapark ââ¬" Businessman
> > > > > Bangkok, Thailand
> > > > > * Paul Potter ââ¬" Educator
> > > > > New York, USA
> > > > > * Michael Charles Dillbeck, Ph.D ââ¬" Scientist and
Educator
> > > > > Champaign, IL, USA
> > > > > * Bruce Plaut, CPA, MBA ââ¬" Accountant and Businessman
> > > > > Fairfield, IA, USA
> > > > > * Emanuel Schiffgens ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Hannover, Germany
> > > > > * Kingsley Brooks, M.A. ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Lincoln, MA, USA
> > > > > * Bjarne Steffen Landsfeldt ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Mausing, Kjellerup, Denmark
> > > > > * Willem Meijles, Ph.D. ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Vlodrop, The Netherlands
> > > > > * Antonio Bartolomé Menéndez ââ¬"
Businessman
> > > > > Banastás, Huesca, Spain
> > > > > * Mariano Facipieri ââ¬" Businessman
> > > > > Baschi, Italy
> > > > > * Jose Luis Alvares Roset ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Barcelona, Spain
> > > > > * John Carol Konhaus ââ¬" Agriculturalist and
Administrator
> > > > > Nasu, Japan
> > > > > * Felix Urs Kägi ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Zürich, Switzerland
> > > > > * James Rogers Badgett Jr. ââ¬" Businessman
> > > > > Fairfield, IA, USA
> > > > > * Peter Warburton, M.A. ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Rendlesham, Woodbridge, Suffolk, UK
> > > > > * Patrick John Barrett, Ph.D. ââ¬" Clinical Psychologist
> > > > > Boone, NC, USA
> > > > > * Lucien Mansour ââ¬" Retired Businessman
> > > > > Brussels, Belgium
> > > > > * Dean Dodrill ââ¬" Business Entrepreneur
> > > > > Washington, D.C., USA
> > > > > * Bevan Morris, Ph.D. ââ¬" Educator
> > > > > Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, USA
> > > > > * Benjamin Feldman, ââ¬" Administrator
> > > > > Mexico City, Mexico
> > > > > * Volker Schanbacher, Ph.D. ââ¬" Research Physicist and
> > Educator
> > > > > Heidelberg, Germany
> > > > > * Christopher Bromley Crowell, M.A. ââ¬" Administrator
and
> > Educator
> > > > > Vlodrop, The Netherlands
> > > > > * Larry Chroman, M.A. ââ¬" Investment Fund Manager
> > > > > Tiburon, CA, USA
> > > > > * Rainer Picha, M.D. ââ¬" Cardiologist and Research
> > Scientist
> > > > > Vienna, Austria
> > > > > * Peter Frederick Swan ââ¬" Agriculturalist
> > > > > Cape Town, South Africa
> > > > > * Dr. Eike Hartmann ââ¬" Architect
> > > > > Hannover, Germany
> > > > > * Major General Kulwant Singh ââ¬" Retired Indian Army
> > Officer
> > > > > New Delhi, India
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
