On 04/14/2013 11:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote:
>> On 04/14/2013 02:45 PM, card wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" <cardemaister@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/9791039/Robot-band-performs-heavy-rock-classic-Ace-of-Spades.html
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just listened to the original tune. The drummer is as "awful" as
>>>>> that robot! (Perhaps that "awfulness" is part of that band's style??)
>>>> The drummer on the original Ace of Spades track was Philthy animal Taylor, 
>>>> who is one of my fave drummers. I saw Motorhead many times
>>>> and they rocked.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdu2GoagU0
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWiVY9nxCZs
>>>>
>>> People obviously like different aspects of drumming, too.
>>>
>>> I seem to recall Bhairitu once mentioned Elvin Jones and
>>> Max Roach as some of his favorite drummers. I don't like
>>> their styles at all, but many people apparently do!
>> It's not about styles, it's about musicianship.  There's show
>> performance and musical performance.  But there will definitely be a gap
>> in understanding between a professional musician with over 50 years of
>> professional experience and a listener or amateur. ;-)
>
> Sure, you've got to be able to *actually* play but on top of
> that some drummers seem to have a layer of panache that most
> struggle to attain.
>
> I always thought it was unfair that even the great drummers
> wouldn't get a dime of song writing royalties even though
> the band wouldn't be anywhere near as good without them.
>
> Can you imagine Zeppelin without Bonham? Or the Police
> without Copeland? Or anyone without Vinnie Coliutta?
> Most are just functional these days and don't dazzle in
> their own right.

Song writing royalties usually go to the writers themselves.  You don't 
see Ringo on Beatles song credits do you?  But mechanical royalties 
might often be split up among band members.  And there were some bands 
where the drummer might have written tunes.  I wrote for some of the 
bands I was in but then I'm not just "a drummer". ;-)

Getting screwed is due to poor business practices either in setting up 
publishing or even their recording contracts.  Record companies loved to 
sign up starry eyed young bands because they were so anxious to become 
stars they wouldn't take the time to get some advice on the business end 
of things.  Some that did okay had either parents or relatives who were 
musicians themselves and knew the business to keep them from signing bad 
deals.  And some came from wealthier families where they were taught 
business.

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