--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote: > > On 04/15/2013 09:50 AM, salyavin808 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > >> On 04/14/2013 11:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > >>>> On 04/14/2013 02:45 PM, card wrote: > >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" <cardemaister@> wrote: > >>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > >>>>>>> <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/9791039/Robot-band-performs-heavy-rock-classic-Ace-of-Spades.html > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Just listened to the original tune. The drummer is as "awful" as > >>>>>>> that robot! (Perhaps that "awfulness" is part of that band's style??) > >>>>>> The drummer on the original Ace of Spades track was Philthy animal > >>>>>> Taylor, who is one of my fave drummers. I saw Motorhead many times > >>>>>> and they rocked. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdu2GoagU0 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWiVY9nxCZs > >>>>>> > >>>>> People obviously like different aspects of drumming, too. > >>>>> > >>>>> I seem to recall Bhairitu once mentioned Elvin Jones and > >>>>> Max Roach as some of his favorite drummers. I don't like > >>>>> their styles at all, but many people apparently do! > >>>> It's not about styles, it's about musicianship. There's show > >>>> performance and musical performance. But there will definitely be a gap > >>>> in understanding between a professional musician with over 50 years of > >>>> professional experience and a listener or amateur. ;-) > >>> Sure, you've got to be able to *actually* play but on top of > >>> that some drummers seem to have a layer of panache that most > >>> struggle to attain. > >>> > >>> I always thought it was unfair that even the great drummers > >>> wouldn't get a dime of song writing royalties even though > >>> the band wouldn't be anywhere near as good without them. > >>> > >>> Can you imagine Zeppelin without Bonham? Or the Police > >>> without Copeland? Or anyone without Vinnie Coliutta? > >>> Most are just functional these days and don't dazzle in > >>> their own right. > >> Song writing royalties usually go to the writers themselves. You don't > >> see Ringo on Beatles song credits do you? > > Yes I know, but the point I'm making is that the drumming on say, > > When the levee breaks by Zeppelin is as much part of the song as > > the tune and lyrics but he wouldn't have got any extra for writing > > what is not just a kick ass beat but also the most sampled beat in > > the whole of music. > > That's not the way song copyrighting works. It's about the words and > melodies not solos by that artists. It's always been that way. And even > then I would highly doubt that Bonham played the same solo every time > (boring, boring, boring). He got his bucks off the album royalties and > concert profits. Unfortunately for some of these artists those bucks > went up their nose.
Zeppelin made a fortune, they had a much better record deal than The Beatles, their manager was a terrifying ex-Hells Angel and would beat the shit out of anyone who didn't pay up, which Brian Epstein probably never even have thought of. They did make excessive powder consumption part of their lives though, it finished off John Bonham, he died of rock and roll and that was that. Best rock group with the best rock drummer. Whereas an awful lot of musicians are interchangeable, JB was irreplaceable.
