Oh Curtis baby - just because I am hard on you doesn't mean I don't love you. Need I say it - just ranting without articulating your needs is a sign of low emotional intelligence. All you had to do was swallow your pride and say - Hey Rav, can I have a consolidated, concise list like Steve as well.
Oh yeah? No problem Curtis here you go 1) Stick to your strengths (very, very important, you know what they are - I already told you OK?) 2) Avoid your weaknesses - viz your seductive, killer charm shouldn't come at the expense of honest, integrity and accountability. 3) Stop falling prey to the rabid pack mentality of your white, old boy, Mid-Western clique. 4) Stop letting your beliefs in the epistemological purity of neuroscience and DSM from making you immobile 5) Stop getting progressively cruder, baser and grosser because of your 7 layered deception Good luck !!! On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:06 AM, curtisdeltablues < curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:34 AM, curtisdeltablues < > > curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Of course as you know Ravi is always ever open, relaxed and alert > even > > > as > he challenges and confront> > > > > > > Talking about yourself in the third person is a very interesting tell. > > > > > > Do you know what it means? > > > > > > > Yes - a sign of humility or arrogance, perhaps both,> > > I was going for dissociation. It also explains a lot of other things. > > > < is there a difference> between humility and arrogance? > > > A profound one, but neither judgment value is the most relevant to your > situation IMO. > > > <Would one <lead to the other?> > > Necessarily, no. I suspect they show up as context dependent qualities. I > don't see them as polarities that could cause a swing between them like > arrogance and low self esteem. I see those as more connected. > > Humility to me is a well-adjusted reaction to the fact of our intellectual > existence. We are always working with too little information, so we have > little to be arrogant about. > > > < Since such a> notion is beyond your present ability and your belief in > the> epistemological purity of neuroscience and DSM manuals > > > I don't think your word salad collage technique is working too well, > although I do understand your wariness toward the DSM manual. > > > <- go with Ravi is a > narcissist or a fucking lunatic - take your pick > :-)> > > Neither of those would have been my pick. I suspect this anonymous venue > amplifies certain issues you have unnaturally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:57 AM, seventhray27 <steve.sundur@>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > > Pathetic and you can't even see it because the time and energy I > have > > > > > spent > > > > > > here will be futile since your response will be another brainless > > > post. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, well try this. What is it about men, or at least men here that > you > > > > > seem to despise so much? You maybe had some limited interaction > with > > > Bob > > > > > Price that was of a more friendly nature. I don't believe you > > > intereacted > > > > > with Robin directly, only indirectly. You have shared here that > your > > > father > > > > > was abusive to your mother and abandoned the family. Do you think > you > > > have > > > > > issues along these lines translate into how you inertact with men > in > > > > > general. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So your response - another willful moronic, trollish post? > > > > > > > > You would be an idiot if you think I haven't or don't interact with > Bob > > > > and/or Robin directly and like you suspect I have and do love, > respect > > > both > > > > - the last time I checked they haven't undergone any sex change. > > > > > > > > Let me tell you a secret, if you are a man - the feeling of being > loved > > > and > > > > respected by Ravi after being baited and challenged by him is one of > the > > > > most awesomest feelings. So unless I take fancy to someone everyone > has > > > to > > > > go through this process. > > > > > > > > I regret to say it but only a few have tasted that and based upon > your > > > > current behavior your chances to succeed are very slim in light of > your > > > > behavior discussed on this thread. > > > > > > > > Of course as you know Ravi is always ever open, relaxed and alert > even as > > > > he challenges and confronts - so you may have good chance if you > follow > > > the > > > > below - we have already discussed this but considering your > disability I > > > am > > > > summarizing and reiterating it again > > > > > > > > 1) Stick to your strengths (very, very important, you know what they > are > > > - > > > > I already told you OK?) > > > > 2) Avoid your weaknesses - i.e. judging people's motivations. > > > > 3) Stop falling prey to the "damsel in distress" act of vile, > vindictive > > > > bitches. > > > > 4) Stop falling prey to the wily charm of His Holiness(s) - masters > of > > > > seven-layered deception. > > > > 5) Stop falling prey to the rabid pack mentality of your white, old > boy, > > > > Mid-Western clique. > > > > > > > > Good luck !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:49 PM, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Ravi Guru, > > > > > > > > > > > > Picture life as a car with a five speed transmission. Four > forward > > > gears, > > > > > > and one reverse. Some even have overdrive. It might be time to > shift > > > from > > > > > > second gear to third gear. You've been stuck in second for some > time > > > now. > > > > > > I remember when you went from first to second gear two or three > years > > > > > ago. > > > > > > It was good. It's time to make another shift. You'll be > surprised how > > > > > > much better the machine runs. It won't have all that friction. > Try > > > it, > > > > > you > > > > > > may like it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah right - false equivalence. Curtis did his thing, Judy did > her > > > > > thing, > > > > > > > it's all a matter of differing, perspectives, POV's - there is > no > > > such > > > > > > > thing as facts, truth - we get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No this not letting it go Curtis - it is one more deceptive > salvo. > > > The > > > > > > last > > > > > > > context shifting, the last breath of deceptive CRT. Curtis, the > > > nice > > > > > guy, > > > > > > > the ever gentleman - willing to let Judy finish on an even > footing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:16 PM, curtisdeltablues < > > > > > > > curtisdeltablues@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, no, but then he said and then you said, and then he > said, and > > > > > then > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > said... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I forget what it is you are trying so desperately to be right > > > about > > > > > > > > concerning my interactions with Robin, but if you are happy > so > > > am I. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You proved what you wanted to the people who think like you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and I did the same. Works for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > authfriend@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh that. Well I know that you don't have the emotional > IQ to > > > > > follow > > > > > > > > it, or you wouldn't have set yourself up this way. So I'll > write > > > this > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Robin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a fine start, Curtis. Let's see where > > > > > > > > > you're going to go with this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin, who kind of prides himself in being able to > > > > > > > > > > understand people deeply, and in fact elevates his > > > > > > > > > > personal opinions to being much more than that, to > > > > > > > > > > being able to detect who is more aligned with REALITY, > > > > > > > > > > is by your narrative... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a hapless idiot who got played by an insincere and > > > > > > > > > > seemingly pathologically devious person in the context > > > > > > > > > > of hundreds of hours of conversations on FFL and in > > > > > > > > > > emails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, it's actually by *his* narrative: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I have been naive and trusting way beyond what was > > > > > > > > > appropriate in your case....I was naive and foolish in > > > > > > > > > whatever I read into our friendship during those long > > > > > > > > > conversations, both online and offline. I have assumed > > > > > > > > > you are someone you are not....I understand; the fault > > > > > > > > > lies in me to have had such lofty and unrealizable > > > > > > > > > expectations." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my version we were both sincere in enjoying each > other's > > > > > > > > > > friendship in the beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I'm sure you were both enjoying it. My goodness, he > > > > > > > > > appreciated the living daylights out of you. You were > > > > > > > > > inspired to be at your very most charming and creative > > > > > > > > > and funny. You reveled in his attention and admiration; > > > > > > > > > you never had a better audience on FFL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > until Robin decided that his judgements about me were > > > > > > > > > > more important to him than his friendship with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, now, that's not quite true, is it, Curtis? This is > > > > > > > > > how he concluded the final post of his five-parter: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Look, Curtis, in going through this exercise with you I > > > > > > > > > feel my heart has opened again to you, with all that that > > > > > > > > > entails: the risk, the re-disillusionment, the > resurrection, > > > > > > > > > the hope, the unconditioned and influenced by the past > > > > > > > > > beginning. I am starting over, because this intense locking > > > > > > > > > up with you has brought back the superb and unparalleled > > > > > > > > > experience of enjoying your spirit. So let's try this > on.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "This has been good for me, Curtis; I believe we have > really > > > > > > > > > cleared the air. But we have to see if we have between us > > > > > > > > > wrought a kind of miracle whereby we really do experience > > > > > > > > > that our friendship can take us over again, and we start > with > > > > > > > > > only an imagined past. Or rather, we only let our personal > > > > > > > > > history be determined by what was positive, which > > > constitutedÃÆ'¢â‚¬" > > > > > > > > > > I have calculate this very carefully and > > > exactlyÃÆ'¢â‚¬"97.47% of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > previous interaction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Good night, Curtis." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't get much more heartfelt than that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And your response? You blew him off. You had no interest > > > > > > > > > whatsoever in reconciling with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I quoted above, Robin excoriating himself for having > > > > > > > > > been too naive and trusting, was his reply to your blowing > > > > > > > > > off his proposal that the two of you start over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oooooopsie! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I am not really sure which of the many judgements he > > > > > > > > > > has laid on me since the falling out is the real reason, > > > > > > > > > > if there is only one, that caused him to make that > choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which choice, the one to try to reconcile with you and > > > > > > > > > start over again that you blew off? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is this area that you have been idiotically > speculating > > > > > > > > > > about under the guise of catching me lying, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I haven't been "speculating about" anything, Curtis. > > > > > > > > > I have asserted that, contrary to your claim, the > > > > > > > > > falling-out had nothing to do with your not accepting > > > > > > > > > that Robin was in Unity consciousness a quarter of a > > > > > > > > > century ago. I stand by that assertion; there is no > > > > > > > > > evidence for that claim in what was posted on FFL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while completely oblivious to the effect of your agenda > > > > > > > > > > on the very person you profess to shed tears for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So tell me, Curtis, what *is* the effect of my agenda on > > > > > > > > > Robin? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pretty funny huh Judy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's very funny indeed watching you struggling to > > > > > > > > > extricate yourself from the hole you've dug and only > > > > > > > > > making it deeper. Want to play another round? I'm game. > > > > > > > > > I'll have to find a way to move that bus off you first, > > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
