On 08/05/2013 01:33 PM, Susan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote: >>>> On 08/04/2013 08:18 PM, Susan wrote: >>>>> I just saw Pandora's Promise, by Robert Stone, an environmentalist who >>>>> has in the past been active in anti-nuclear energy protests. He got >>>>> convinced otherwise and has made this docu. It features info and also >>>>> interviews with several environmentalists who have educated themselves >>>>> and changed their minds about nuclear energy. Stuart Brand (Whole Earth >>>>> catalogue) is one and so is Mark Lynas, who wrote the book Six Degrees in >>>>> 2007. I have mentioned that book here several times - terrific and >>>>> accessible read about climate change. Lynas was anti nuclear for years - >>>>> and now changed his mind. A worthwhile movie to see - and while I am not >>>>> at all an expert on nuclear power, it made a really good case for the >>>>> positives. It also seems that there is a type of nuclear power (IFR) >>>>> that produces waste that is recyclable by the nuclear plant itself. The >>>>> safeguards on these are also incredible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I grew up near the Hanford Nuclear Reservation which is now having a >>>> terrible time with all the waste that facility generated. Nuclear energy >>>> is NOT a very good idea. And when you let profit hungry big >>>> corporations run the show the problem gets worse. >>>> >>>> Right now the problems facing this world are from one thing: too large a >>>> human population. This needs to be addressed humanly through one child >>>> programs etc. We could probably survive and enjoy life with a much >>>> lower supply of electrical energy and still keep a lot of the technology >>>> we have today. The problem is the every man for himself atmosphere that >>>> laissez faire capitalism promotes. That keeps excessive consumption >>>> alive just so some bunch can keep making money. How insane! >>>> >>> And can you actually imagine western nations enforcing a one child policy? >>> This is wishful thinking, even if a terrific solution. On a long drive >>> recently I listened to Dan Brown's new novel, Inferno. Not a very well >>> written book. But......Plot spoiler alert from this point on: The plot is >>> about a scientist and others who feel that they must do something drastic >>> to reduce earth's population or else we are going to be extinct due to >>> damage to the planet. Via terrorist means, they plan to introduce into the >>> atmosphere a virus that renders about 1/3 of the people who breathe it >>> infertile. >>> In real life, there are apparently groups out there who are hoping for some >>> event or epidemic or something to reduce our numbers and save us from >>> ourselves. >> OK, spoiler here.... >> >> but the UK Channel 4 TV series we chatted about here, "Utopia" was about >> that. I even told some folks I was playing the first episode for to pay >> attention to the opening newscast, it lays out the whole thing. Most >> people wouldn't pay that strict attention as they think that the >> newscast is just background sound. BTW, HBO bought the rights to that >> series and is producing a US version which may well be watered down and >> probably not it the nice "scope" aspect ratio that the UK versions was >> shown. > I missed this show and the discussion here. Will check it out.
Good luck on that. I would have thought that it would be available on Netflix WI by now but with HBO getting the rights all bets are off. >> I've wondered if a virus were produced to stop pregnancy and then 5 >> years later an antidote found if people would still want to have >> children? Let's face it, having children is more of a romantic or >> emotional thing except of course for "mistakes." A friend and his wife >> just had their first child and probably only child. He is in his 40s >> and was an only child. I did the horoscope which showed nothing but >> weak planets (oh well, my horoscope is like that too). But I kept >> thinking, "poor kid, I sure wouldn't want to be born into this world the >> state it is in." >> >> And I have other friends who have chosen not to have children at all in >> spite of the fact that they are very bright people. It's the religious >> fundamentalists who have still having large families obviously because >> their emotions drive them more than reason. > And also the billions of people in other countries who have many children. And they do that because they want at least one child to survive to take care of them in old life. Do some kind of program like Social Security for the and the problem goes away. Also more education for women in developing countries is essential for keeping the birth rate down. > > My soon to be married son is seriously considering not having children due to > what he expects the future to be like. I would love grandchildren and we > humans seem to be pack animals, but I can understand his concerns. This is > not something we thought of back in the 70's and 80's. >> BTW, a few months back I found a copy of a Chinese newspaper delivered >> here and to all houses in the neighborhood. The ad on the front page >> celebrated the single child policy. Of course folks from China are >> coming over on tours to buy houses in the US. > More details on folks from China coming here to buy homes, please. So they > can have more children? Due to pollution in China? It is not easy to become > a citizen here for them, is it? More money. It's the rich Chinese buying houses and in some cases businesses. You can probably look up details via search. One such article: http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/08/real_estate/chinese-homebuyers/index.html I also notice the increase in price of food and have heard that some of our food is being shipped to China because they will pay more for it. Ain't capitalism grand? > B, do you agree with James Kelleher's predictions about the 2019-20 timeframe > and that dharma might be leaving the earth for a while beginning then? If > so, when is dharma supposed to return, anyway? Not familiar with that prediction. You can observe the collective consciousness of society by being alert and keeping your memory in good shape. Then you'll notice the trends. Right now the collective consciousness is not in great shape.
