--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> >
> > By famous people, I meant people like David Lynch, 
> > Clint Eastwood, Howard Stern, Donvan, Jerry Seinfeld, 
> > and so on, all of whom have been meditating in the 
> > 4 decade range.
> 
> Lawson, don't you *ever* get tired of being a 
> perpetual groupie, and gaining your sense of  
> self worth by associating yourself in your mind
> with people you've never met, and with whom the
> only thing you have in common is that you all
> once learned a simple, rudimentary technique
> of meditation?
> 
> You demonstrate a classic syndrome among TMers,
> one that started with *Maharishi's* groupie-love.
> The man was just *shameless* about sucking up to
> people who were famous or rich, and then trying
> to use *their* fame, or their celebrity, or their
> names to enhance his own, as if some of their
> creativity and success could "rub off on him"
> by association. 
> 
> The issue is NOT what a few cherry-picked "success
> stories" (most of whom were famous LONG before 
> they ever learned TM) have done with their lives.
> It's what YOU -- and others like you who keep
> trotting out this "Just look at the famous TMers"
> meme -- have done with your lives. 
> 
> Me, I'm just an ordinary, garden-variety writer
> who currently gets paid fairly well to shuttle
> back and forth between the Netherlands and France.
> I've never claimed to be "enlightened," and have
> no organization I'm part of or "represent," and
> no "image" to maintain. So I can just be myself.
> There is no one I even *could* suck up to in an
> attempt to bolster my supposed "specialness."
> 
> But YOU GUYS seem to fall back on this "Just look 
> at the famous TMers" meme any time someone asks
> YOU what you've accomplished with YOUR lives. 
> 
> What's up with that? It couldn't possibly be that
> you *haven't* accomplished very much with your
> lives, could it? It couldn't be that few people
> you even have had *contact with* in the TMO have
> ever done much with their lives, could it?
> 
> But it doesn't matter, as long as there are one
> or two "famous TMers" you can point at whenever
> the issue comes up. Like Paul McCartney, who only
> claimed to have stopped smoking dope a year or so
> ago. Or David Lynch, who hasn't done a film other
> than music videos, festival trailers, or shorts
> since 2007. Or Donovan, whose new album "Shadows
> Of Blue" was self-published and is so obscure you
> can't even find it on Amazon. Clint, to his credit,
> is still trying to make movies, but his production
> seems to be in financial jeopardy, possibly as a 
> result of his "talk to the chair" Eastwooding 
> routine. Jerry Seinfeld? Well, to his credit, 
> the writing for "Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee"
> was nominated for an Emmy, but other than that he
> doesn't seem to have done much of anything except
> guest performances and voice-overs since his show
> went off the air in 1998. 
> 
> Seems to me that if you want to continue to gauge
> your *own* self worth by associating yourself with
> TMers, you're gonna have to search a bit further 
> to find any who are "worthy." 
> 
> An alternative, of course, might be actually DOING
> something yourself, instead of living on fantasies
> based on a dogma that is not and was never true.

Once in a while Barry, you simply need to just fuck off.
>


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