Doc, Ravi is young and probably has no need of Spanx. Yet!
________________________________ From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Thank you, Ann. Perhaps a picture of Bob, in SPANX, would help sway the judges? mmmm? Also, a minor point of order - I believe that *Ravi* is ALSO a charter member of the MGC? And judging from those fitted shirts, I'd say SPANX are um, familiar to him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price <bobpriced@> wrote: > > > > > > I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered > > for full membership in the "mean girls", because, frankly, we're > > finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get > > us > > wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we > > just > > think we've earned consideration for a higher calling.  And to prove my > > personal commitment, I've ordered > > my first SPANX Men's starter kit. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A > > This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need to > be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little special > consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are quite high. > This, and the fact that you have actually requested membership, although this > will be put forward to the rest of the existing members for a vote, also > stands in your favour for inclusion. We also have another male in our Club > (Dr Jim) so including a second man will balance out our group nicely. > > Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as far as > Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership goes without > saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience around fools and > acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability to spot a fake or an > asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving someone a good lashing > when she has a mind to. > > Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly with > our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I am > virtually positive you will make the cut. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ann <awoelflebater@> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites > > for Enlightenment) > > > > > > > > > > May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively > > giddy. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price <bobpriced@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > >>>And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without > > > editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. > > > That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for > > > deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. > > > > > > >>>For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like > > > my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off > > > on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with > > > something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not > > > busy...uh...editing.  :-) > > > > > > ****** > > > > > > I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, > > > it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could > > > respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. > > > > > > One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a > > > *Best of FFL* > > > going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of > > > picking > > > my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone > > > best Share's attempt > > > to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm > > > going with: > > > > > > "Is Voldemort a hack?" > > > > > > When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: "Where's the art?". For > > > someone with his > > > considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself > > > to us as > > > > > > a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; > > > this might > > > be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. > > > > > > As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when > > > he attempts > > > > > > anything more than that, the word "hack" pretty much nails what he > > > becomes. > > > > > > For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the > > > ability to defamiliarize* > > > by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts > > > completely fail at this. > > > OTOH, Judy's choice of the word "hack", to describe Voldemort, is a great > > > example of effective > > > defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was > > > familiar about him. > > > > > > I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative > > > writing > > > > > > (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at > > > writing creatively > > > > > > ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do > > > that), is like watching > > > > > > someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no "My left > > > foot" jokes please). He also > > > appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls > > > "heard words", which make > > > > > > his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who > > > considers Voldemort a creative writer > > > might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in > > > understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, > > > who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of > > > Kerouac's talent as an artist). > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI > > > > > > > > > The film "The Master" was an example for me of the way art can make the > > > familiar *new*; the whole film > > > > > > delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip > > > Seymour Hoffman) "Processes" Freddie > > > > > > Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the > > > first time I meditated; my experience of > > > > > > the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it > > > was the suggestiveness of Dodd's > > > voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell > > > *living* a previous experience > > > as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first > > > meditation and the first superlative > > > > > > clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that > > > reported or noticed an artifact of my > > > > > > awareness that had just existed without thinking. > > > > > > > > > The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I > > > believe it was the cinematography, > > > with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything > > > else was essential to making > > > > > > the experience possible for me. > > > > > > > > > Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin > > > Phoenix's characterization > > > of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first > > > time---character types that I > > > met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in > > > WW2; JP's characterization > > > > > > of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of characters Jim Thompson > > > (writer of "The Getaway" and > > > > > > "The Grifters") created that felt as new, when I read about them in his > > > novels, but reminded me of some > > > psychopathic cowboy's my father socialized with. > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't disagree that Voldemort's posts are full of conflict (more > > > than one detective has found creative > > > uses for the Yellow Pages, when interviewing a suspect)---and that > > > conflict is essential to drama, but conflict > > > > > > without art is no more than conflict; Voldemort is also capable of irony, > > > although I've yet to read anything > > > ironic in his posts that was not inadvertent and ended up making him look > > > vacuous. I'm sure most of us have > > > favorites of his inadvertent irony, my personal favorite is his > > > declaration that he can type as fast as he > > > thinks (smile). > > > > > > Share, lets imagine that Voldemort is not pushing 70---with the emotional > > > palette of an 8 year old; lets > > > imagine he has some class and wants to apologize for his abusive post to > > > you, and lets imagine a song he > > > would apologize with: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZmSkUL6Ws > > > > > > > > > *Reference: Victor Shklovsky - "Art as Technique" > > > > > > http://web.fmk.edu.rs/files/blogs/2010-11/MI/Misliti_film/Viktor_Sklovski_Art_as_Technique.pdf > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Â > > > > > > > > >  > > >
