Perhaps Lilo flipping someone the bird??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > Thank you, Ann. Perhaps a picture of Bob, in SPANX, would help sway the
> > judges? mmmm?
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> > Also, a minor point of order - I believe that *Ravi* is ALSO a charter
> > member of the MGC? And judging from those fitted shirts, I'd say SPANX are
> > um, familiar to him.
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> Oh YES! Ravi is indeed a member, and a gold member as well. My mean girl mind
> left me for a moment when I was writing that post to Bob (does he do that to
> all the women?). At any rate, my apologies to our ultimate MG Ravi who is an
> essential element of our charming group. And while on the subject, do you
> have any ideas for a logo for the club?
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price <bobpriced@> wrote:
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> > > > I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered
> > > > for full membership in the "mean girls", because, frankly, we're
> > > > finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't
> > > > get us
> > > > wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists,
> > > > we just
> > > > think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. Â And to prove
> > > > my personal commitment, I've ordered
> > > > my first SPANX Men's starter kit.
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A
> > >
> > > This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need
> > > to be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little
> > > special consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are
> > > quite high. This, and the fact that you have actually requested
> > > membership, although this will be put forward to the rest of the existing
> > > members for a vote, also stands in your favour for inclusion. We also
> > > have another male in our Club (Dr Jim) so including a second man will
> > > balance out our group nicely.
> > >
> > > Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as
> > > far as Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership
> > > goes without saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience
> > > around fools and acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability
> > > to spot a fake or an asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving
> > > someone a good lashing when she has a mind to.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly
> > > with our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I
> > > am virtually positive you will make the cut.
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Ann <awoelflebater@>
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The
> > > > Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
> > > >
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> > > > May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm
> > > > positively giddy.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price <bobpriced@> wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
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> > > > > >>>And for your information, I dash off things here and send them
> > > > > >>>without
> > > > > editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them.
> > > > > That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for
> > > > > deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like
> > > > > my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off
> > > > > on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with
> > > > > something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not
> > > > > busy...uh...editing.ÃÂ ÃÂ :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > ******
> > > > >
> > > > > I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*,
> > > > > it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could
> > > > > respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished
> > > > > reading.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider
> > > > > a *Best of FFL*
> > > > > going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task
> > > > > of picking
> > > > > my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could
> > > > > anyone best Share's attempt
> > > > > to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and
> > > > > I'm going with:ÃÂ
> > > > >
> > > > > "Is Voldemort a hack?"
> > > > >
> > > > > When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: "Where's the art?". For
> > > > > someone with his
> > > > > considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling
> > > > > himself to us as
> > > > >
> > > > > a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his
> > > > > contributions; this might
> > > > > be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative
> > > > > act.
> > > > >
> > > > > As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO,
> > > > > when he attempts
> > > > >
> > > > > anything more than that, the word "hack" pretty much nails what he
> > > > > becomes.
> > > > >
> > > > > For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the
> > > > > ability to defamiliarize*
> > > > > by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts
> > > > > completely fail at this.
> > > > > OTOH, Judy's choice of the word "hack", to describe Voldemort, is a
> > > > > great example of effective
> > > > > defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was
> > > > > familiar about him.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative
> > > > > writing
> > > > >
> > > > > (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts
> > > > > at writing creatively
> > > > >
> > > > > ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will
> > > > > do that), is like watching
> > > > >
> > > > > someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no "My left
> > > > > foot" jokes please). He also
> > > > > appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls
> > > > > "heard words", which make
> > > > >
> > > > > his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who
> > > > > considers Voldemort a creative writer
> > > > > might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in
> > > > > understanding some of Kerouac's limitations,
> > > > > who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of
> > > > > Kerouac's talent as an artist).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The film "The Master" was an example for me of the way art can make
> > > > > the familiar *new*; the whole film
> > > > >
> > > > > delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip
> > > > > Seymour Hoffman) "Processes" Freddie
> > > > >
> > > > > Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like
> > > > > the first time I meditated; my experience of
> > > > >
> > > > > the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of
> > > > > it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's
> > > > > voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell
> > > > > *living* a previous experience
> > > > > as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first
> > > > > meditation and the first superlative
> > > > >
> > > > > clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that
> > > > > reported or noticed an artifact of my
> > > > >
> > > > > awareness that had just existed without thinking.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I
> > > > > believe it was the cinematography,
> > > > > with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than
> > > > > anything else was essential to making
> > > > >
> > > > > the experience possible for me.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was
> > > > > Joaquin Phoenix's characterization
> > > > > of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the
> > > > > first time---character types that I
> > > > > met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him
> > > > > in WW2; JP's characterization
> > > > >
> > > > > of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of characters Jim
> > > > > Thompson (writer of "The Getaway" and
> > > > >
> > > > > "The Grifters") created that felt as new, when I read about them in
> > > > > his novels, but reminded me of some
> > > > > psychopathic cowboy's my father socialized with.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I wouldn't disagree that Voldemort's posts are full of conflict (more
> > > > > than one detective has found creative
> > > > > uses for the Yellow Pages, when interviewing a suspect)---and that
> > > > > conflict is essential to drama, but conflict
> > > > >
> > > > > without art is no more than conflict; Voldemort is also capable of
> > > > > irony, although I've yet to read anything
> > > > > ironic in his posts that was not inadvertent and ended up making him
> > > > > look vacuous. I'm sure most of us have
> > > > > favorites of his inadvertent irony, my personal favorite is his
> > > > > declaration that he can type as fast as he
> > > > > thinks (smile).
> > > > >
> > > > > Share, lets imagine that Voldemort is not pushing 70---with the
> > > > > emotional palette of an 8 year old; lets
> > > > > imagine he has some class and wants to apologize for his abusive post
> > > > > to you, and lets imagine a song he
> > > > > would apologize with:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZmSkUL6Ws
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *Reference: Victor Shklovsky - "Art as Technique"
> > > > >
> > > > > http://web.fmk.edu.rs/files/blogs/2010-11/MI/Misliti_film/Viktor_Sklovski_Art_as_Technique.pdf
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