On 9/27/05 9:38 AM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/26/05 10:52 PM, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> The koan that does the job. "You will have every
>>> experience you need to have till you finally wake up"
>>> a quote from a friend.
>> 
>> I wouldn't consider that a koan.
>> 
>> Also it says, in effect, the awakened state (brahmavidya or rigpa) is
>> conditioned by relative conditions--a gradual path, not a "sudden"
>> path. Awakening can happening at any moment, esp. if one is being
>> given a "pointing out" instruction through direct introduction.
> 
> Well, that could be the last experience you need to
> have to wake up, no?

Depends on what you mean by "wake up". In general one gains "the View", the
living, breathing experience and certainty as to what the state of Unity
*is*. Doubt falls away and one gains "confidence of the View". But really it
is just a new beginning, preceding towards total enlightenment. One must
"continue" in the View.






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