--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > So long as we do *not* appreciate *this* 
> > > moment as a "god-given" gift we have not yet fully unwrapped 
and 
> > > understood -- that long do we find it to be shrouded in 
> darkness, 
> > > ignorance, fear, suffering, and so on: the darkness and 
> ignorance 
> > > of our own lack of attention and unconditional appreciation.
> > 
> > Yes, that's being overshadowed.
> > 
> > > When we 
> > > simply "be" with it, breathe with it, allow ourselves to feel 
> > > it in the body non-judgmentally ("this too is good" -- 
> > > or "...God" or "...bliss" --), relaxing into it while 
> > > appreciating it, then it lightens up.
> > 
> > Yes, that's what being overshadowed makes it
> > impossible to do.
>  
> How do you know this is impossible, Judy, if you haven't tried it?

Oh, for heaven's sake, of course I've tried it.

<snip>
> > > Judy:
> > > > Yes, it is.  It's like being realized.  It's *not*
> > > > like being in ignorance.
> > > 
> > > Rory:
> > > How do you know this, if you don't know what being realized is? 
> > > In my experience/understanding anyhow, it is *precisely* like 
> > > being in ignorance -- with the slight but crucial adjustment 
<snip>
> > 
> > Right.  Lacking that "slight but crucial
> > adjustment" is what being in ignorance is
> > like.  Not like being realized, in other words.
> 
> Who is going to make or allow that "slight but crucial adjustment" 
> if not you?

What "you" are you talking about?  And what on
earth leads you to think that it's something
"you" *make*?

> When (if ever) do you plan to make or allow it?

I plan to let it happen whenever it's
ready to happen.

> Is there a Judy in the near or distant future who has made it or 
> allowed it? 
> If so, what does she feel like?
> If "Enlightenment" is outside of time and space, does that mean it 
> is equally available now as it is twenty lifetimes from now?

This is gobbledygook, sorry.





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