--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > Akasha:
> > > > Does it strike anyone else as funny, even absurd, that the 
whole
> > > > paradigm about enlightenment on this list is dichotomous,
> digital, either "on or off"?
> > 
> > Unc: 
> > > YES!  That's exactly the issue.
> >  
> > > I realized that some time back, during the discussions
> > > about 'appreciation.'  Some comment by, I think, Tom
> > > made me completely abandon my old paradigm and come up
> > > with a new one that more accurately described my 
> > > subjective experience.
> > 
> > A: 
> > > > Pure consciousness begins from the first mediation. If not 
before. 
> > 
> > U: 
> > > Before.  There has never been a moment in my life when
> > > I was not enlightened. 
> > 
> If you were jivna-mukti at birth, you had not need to incarnate.
> 
> A serious point per my prior post. People can dilute, devalue, 
> reclassify, and redefine E criteria all they want. But if they come
> back, they were wrong. 
> 

So much for bodhisatvas?

> I have long suggested that we run some tests on the self-proclaimed
> Es. Push'em off a cliff. And if they don't come back, we will
> celebrate their saintliness.

MMY once commented, or so I am told, that the sidhis would be an eye-
opener to many who felt they were fully enlightened.




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