Typical Tea Partier thinking on your part Mike. Why do you buy that
bullshit? First off the problems that governments especially on state
and city levels are having is due to promising their employees pensions
at a full pay when they retire. No pensions are NOT SS but I would have
assumed you would have gotten that and had been paying attention to the
pensions promised during boom times to police and fire fighters as an
example. I've read posts from people who got those pensions thinking it
was nice to have but really not that necessary. In reality it turns out
the governments can't pay them.
You know I don't like Obamacare either but for a different reason than
you. It wound up being a big handout to the insurance bandits er
companies. I wanted Single Payer just like other countries have. But
nooooooo, we can't have that, it's "commooonism". There is no lack of
stupid people in the US.
On 09/24/2013 06:05 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Not sure what you're talking about here. What 100% pension are you
talking about? SS was never meant to be a *pension*, it's a supplement
to whatever savings and pension you were supposed to have worked for
while paying into SS. Divvy up jobs? Who's in charge of that and who
decides who gets a job and who goes on *leisure pay*? No longer enough
full time jobs? Maybe we should ask why and what we can do to create
them and what we have done to diminish them. Obamacare is a good
example of why we are having fewer full time jobs. Work thirty hours
or more and your employer has to provide insurance which they may or
may not be able to afford. When 10-20 million people cross our
boarders illegally because *all they want is a job*, can we say there
aren't enough jobs to go around? Oh, I know, some jobs are just below
our *dignity*. I remember a day when taking public assistance was
below our dignity. If someone thinks they are too good for a certain
kind of job that is available, maybe they just aught to have their ego
busted so they can see just how valuable they really are.
*From:* Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 5:21 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
Nothing wrong with Social Security. But there is something wrong with
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they
were working. What were they smoking when they did that? it actually
isn't feasible. Times were booming and the idiots you elected
(regardless of the aisle they sat on) made those promises. The idea
when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as much.
You don't need a full pension.When there are no longer full time jobs
for everyone then you have to divvy up the jobs. But that won't work
for employers. So what are you going to do, Mike? Tell people to
crawl away and die? You know how that will go down. They'll tell you
to crawl away and die.On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
We already have that *leisuresociety*. Ever heard of Social Security?
You pay into it for many years and at a certain age you get to join
that leisure society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't
even have to pay into it. Just have something wrong that prevents
you from being able to work or just be the child of a parent that
died and had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a single mother and
have the government pay you to raise your kids. The government will
find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a phone,
free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning
how to make do with a little.
*From:* Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop
dead. Doing what? How would you like a near aspergers like former
computer programmer waiting on you at Burger King? At that there are
not enough jobs for everybody. I push the new leisure society where
you pay people FOR NOT WORKING. Sound upside down? Bucky Fuller
suggested this over 50 years ago. Also many people with retirement
funds used them up after unemployment ran out while looking for a job
in their field. A friend who is a very competent software engineer
and college professor found himself taking Social Security at age 67
even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at
age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore. In fact it sucks. On
09/23/2013 12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
A Christian
nation:http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html
