"Even after removing the complete whole from the (other) complete whole, still
the complete whole remains unaltered and undisturbed."
Now, Richard, THAT'S a koan to sink one's teeth into!
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From: Richard J. Williams <pundits...@gmail.com>
To: Richard J. Williams <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Downshifting, was America the Beautiful
Share Long wrote:
> Ah, Richard, thank you and I LOVE LOVE LOVE that bit from
Isha
> Upanishad expecially: one should enjoy it with renunciation.
> So yin/yang, so Shiva/Shakti, so light and shadow, etc.
>
As the saying goes: "Purman adah, Purnam idam"
"Om ! That (world) is a complete whole.
This (world) too is a complete whole.
>From the complete whole only, the (other)
complete whole rose. Even after removing
the complete whole from the (other)
complete whole, still the complete whole
remains unaltered and undisturbed."
'Isha Upanishad'
http://www.vedarahasya.net/isha.htm
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From: Richard J. Williams <pundits...@gmail.com>
To: Richard J. Williams <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
On 9/23/2013 7:21 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> The idea when you get older is you probably
don't need and often want as
> much...
>
It's called 'down-shifting' - going back to the
basics. All my life I've been doing
the up-shifting. This is the mime speaking.
That's what I'm going to do - sell almost
everything, the cars, houses and the
boat, and move to the country. Live the simple life.
Downshifting - a move away
from materialism towards a simpler, more fulfilling
life!
According to Suma Varughese, downshifting also known
as "simple living" or
"voluntary simplicity", is a path I want to take,
away from the land of the
shopping mall.
"The only thing we can do to downshift is to reduce
our own wants and cut loose
from the consumerist trap. What has already been
seen to be the route to
individual happiness also becomes the route to that
of the environment."
Some adopt the devotional approach. Nothing is ours,
for all is God's according
to Swami Shantanand Saraswati, 'The Man Who Wanted
to Meet God':
"The Isha Upanishad says that the universe is
permeated by the Absolute.
Whatever one sees in creation, whatever moves one
should use it fully and enjoy
this absolute everywhere, but one should enjoy it
with renunciation. One should
not try to hold it or covet it. One need not try to
possess it.
Enjoy it and give it up."
http://www.lifepositive.com/writers/Suma_Varughese.asp
>Nothing wrong with Social Security. But there is something wrong with
>foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they were
>working. What were they smoking when they did that? it actually isn't
>feasible. Times were booming and the idiots you elected (regardless of the
>aisle they sat on) made those promises. The idea when you get older is you
>probably don't need and often want as much. You don't need a full pension.
>
>When there are no longer full time jobs for
everyone then you have to divvy up the jobs.
But that won't work for employers. So what are
you going to do, Mike? Tell people to crawl
away and die? You know how that will go down.
They'll tell you to crawl away and die.
>
>On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
>
>
>>We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You
>>pay into it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure
>>society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into
>>it. Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or
>>just be the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can
>>even be a single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids.
>>The government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give
>>you a phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth
>>having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to
>>make do with a little.
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net>
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
>>
>>
>>And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing
>>what? How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer
>>waiting on you at Burger King? At that there are not enough jobs for
>>everybody. I push the new leisure society where you pay people FOR NOT
>>WORKING. Sound upside down? Bucky Fuller suggested this over 50 years ago.
>>Also many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment ran
>>out while looking for a job in their field. A friend who is a very competent
>>software engineer and college professor found himself taking Social Security
>>at age 67 even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at
>>age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore. In fact it sucks. On 09/23/2013
>>12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
>>
>>>A Christian nation:
>>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html
>>>
>>>
>
