Xeno, you say that people stop short of enlightenment because it seems that no progress is happening. And in the paragraph above that, you say that at some point the words have to go. And yet it is the words, or the knowledge and understanding that can help a person continue when all is flat and seemingly non progressive. Even Maharishi's analogy of going around an iceberg, seeming to go backwards has helped me continue. Am I a fool? Or am I persistent? Both? And does it even matter?
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:06 PM, "anartax...@yahoo.com" <anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Dear MJ; Yes, working people back in that day of $3.35 an hour wages got a great deal then. However it is true the conservative meditator I here speak for feels deeply that people are not paying anywhere close to enough to learn TM at $1,500. And, the slacker kids living at home with their parents neither too. The TM movement could squeeze at least another thousand out of the new people coming to our Peace Palaces. It is extremely important to have commitment from new people as they start or you end up like some of the quitters we see here. -Buck I think you may be missing something Buck. I am meditating in my fifth decade. Even after adjusting for inflation by current U.S. Government measures, the price I paid for TM was less than US$500 in current value. To continue with meditation, you have to have some kind of deep desire beyond simply thinking that some mental technique is going to solve all your problems, because it does not work out that way. Something has to motivate beyond feeling better because some situations may arise where you simply do not feel well at all, and one can go through periods where it really does not seem to be doing anything at all. When somebody is taught a technique I would say there is a 10 to 20 percent chance they will continue. This happened in my family, and in the family of friends, and in the few research papers that mentioned such data. It is not that people are slackers. For one thing our culture does not support meditation that well in spite of its being more in common awareness than previously. Another factor is the illusions the mind has. It affects groups and groups that teach meditation inevitably become weird in some way, particularly if religiosity is a part of the philosophy of the group. TM has always tried to hide its religiosity, but it oozes through the cracks so much you can almost drown in it. People have very strong religious delusions and when faced with a religiosity that is contrary to what they are emotionally programmed with, they may quit just for that reason alone. Basically you have to be kind of crazy to continue with meditation, there has to be something that pushes you forward, something you sense behind the bizarre character of the whatever system of 'enlightenment' you have fallen into that seems somehow 'true'. It is not something that can be quantified. There is a curiosity that one needs about this, not an entrenched belief that one is on a royal path to a nirvana. No belief can stand in the face of this curiosity if one is to 'succeed'; all beliefs will eventually be blown away. As Maharishi said, words of ignorance to remove ignorance. All the verbal knowledge in the movement are words of ignorance. Rightly applied they may work for you up to a point, but at some point they have to go, and it is up to the individual how they handle or fail to handle the transition. Most of the people that want to help you along on the path are going to help you fail because they failed to make that transition. I believe M said at least CC was possible for everyone with TM, but CC is not enlightenment. That means a lot of people are going to fail, and they will not help you along your way; they will become an active force against your progress unless you know how to brush them aside and stay on purpose. You are one of those sorts that needs to be brushed aside. Maybe in years to come that will not longer be true, but right now you are an anachronism. People may stop short of 'enlightenment', short of awakening simply because it seems progress is no longer happening - they may be right on the cusp. As one Zen master said, you may not be aware of your own enlightenment. You may not sense how close you are because everything seems flat, or simply have become so saturated with the spiritual environment you can't stand it anymore and need a hiatus for a while so what has occurred can sink in and gestate for a while before you can again move on. Remember Buck, the Meissner effect is electromagnetic; it is just a verbal analogy that ties it with the supposed Maharishi Effect, the latter which has no scientific standing outside of the TM movement's proclamations. Pushing pseudoscience as fact does no service to meditation except in the minds of idiots and the uniformed. It is not the money that keeps people meditating. For the wealthy $1500 is pocket change, and they can discard meditation as easily as a pair of shoes that do not fit. The movement has an elitist mentality, and if it cannot appeal to the masses as it did in the 1960s and 1970s, it will simply become yesterday's news, and some other system will for a time, perhaps, find itself in the spotlight.