--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > The word 'evolution' does NOT imply 'purpose.' > > > > > > The sentient beings of the universe, as far as I can > > > tell, are all evolving. But personally I don't think > > > that there is anywhere in particular that they are > > > evolving *to*. I have no problem with everything > > > always evolving, but in a chaotic (meaning Inter- > > > dependent Origination) way. No goal, no purpose, > > > just beings interacting and moving in the karmic > > > direction spawned by that interation.>>> > > > > Then the word 'sentient' is out of place and is an illusion > > that you have placed upon the dead, inert, dumb universe. > > I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. > I'm presenting the POV that the universe is NOT > sentient, in the sense of a self-aware universe > with its own sense of identity, i.e., God.>>
In my opinion you joined to completely unrelated ideas together here: intelligence and 'God'. This is the irrational leap that all the anti-intelligent design scientists make. Intelligent universe does not imply the common concept of a 'God' and I have never stated there was a God. You made that leap on your own. > > I can conceive of the universe being the sum self > awareness of all of the sentient beings that dwell > "within" it, but I'm Buddhist enough to not really > believe it has a sentience of its own. > > > You are avoiding the issue which is that evolution has order. > > That's *your* issue. I obviously found other ways > to entertain myself with the same discussion. I > have no problem with the universe having order. > I just don't associate the word 'purpose' with the > word 'order.'>>> Yes you do. Order has purpose. Whatever its purpose is, is irrelevent, but it has purpose imposed upon by the nature of the system that it is expressing. Evolotion absolutlely implies purpose. Its purpose is evolotion. Now define evolution, without calling it chaos. It has a direction. OffWorld ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
