geez, wgm, beyond pay grade or not, thanks for this analysis which if I have heard, I've definitely forgotten. That phrase *Sat is the Brahman beyond creation* is acting as a koan for me. I can't fathom it. Nor am I even trying to fathom it. I'm just letting it sit there and do its magic, if that makes any sense.
One question: would you say Om or Tat is what Maharishi calls the gap? On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:00 AM, wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: OM-TAT-SAT explains the material and spiritual constitution of the Universe (and beyond). OM or Mother Divine creates the material world including our body/bodies which are essentially pranic energy (I'm getting a little over my pay grade here Share, but anyway, here goes), TAT is the pure reflection in the relative material World of the one Spirit Brahman, that reflection is our Jiva (and the Atman, Emerson's over soul) the TAT! SAT is the Brahman beyond creation, in the beginning Mother Divine spins out creation using the (soundless sound or OM), within this matrix a pure reflection is born (baby Jesus, Krishna) this is the reflection of Brahman (one and the same as Brahman but limited by time and the Manvantara (time). At the end or the pralaya all creation dissolves back into Brahman until another Day of Brahma. MMY used to call the unity of Silence and Dynamism as the Brahm, he is referring to the realized soul who has unified the TAT and the SAT or Unity Consciousness, so in closing the Body per se is not consciousness but is a threefold construct of material atoms, astral light and the causal thought vibrations, beyond this 3 fold body is the jiva or pure soul and beyond that is the Atman and beyond that is the para-Atman or Brahman. Imagine a crystal ball floating in space (Creation or Mother Divine), now imagine light from the Sun (Brahman) penetrating that crystal ball, the refection IN the crystal ball is our soul (jiva, the spark) and the greater Soul (Atman, the flame) of the created World, hence you have OM TAT SAT; in the end all things revert to the one and only Absolute Brahman. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: wgm, doshas as faults of the ego reminds me of that tape wherein Maharishi explains that the fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the three gunas with the 5 mahabhutas: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. And in 4, 35 of the Gita: delusion in tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in rajas is overcome by increasing sattwa; by delusion in sattwa, Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending the gunas. I mention these to say: isn't the body consciousness already? On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:01 PM, wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the "Sleeping Elephants" MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. Boooo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)