Jerry Jarvis and the old secular TM movement, a lot of us started under that. 
Yes, spiritual and silent transcending meditations as “spiritual and not 
religious”. Clearly without religious requirement or formality; like the old 
founding primitive Quakers were to religions and church formalism as like 
 the old Students International Meditation Society [SIMS] and International 
Meditation Society [IMS] were once spiritual and not religious in culture. For 
instance, Jerry Jarvis glowed spiritually and was very George Fox like in his 
role alongside the spiritual Christ-like Maharishi. Hinduism then coming now in 
to TM is a lot like Christian ideologues coming in to the Society of Friends 
and over-throwing Quaker Meetings in the 19th Century. Of course now with Bevan 
Morris the whole TM thing holds a confused split personality with hindu-istic 
pundits chanting and worshiping dieties as laws of nature and such all trying 
to look secular and scientific with our consciousness-based education, David 
Lynch, and Dome group "Meissner Effect" meditation practice as meditators on 
the other hand.  Practically hardly any of the old Fairfield TM community 
really has much to do with the religious worship and stuff going on sponsored 
by that part of the movement up in the pundit compound north of M. Vedic City. 
 -Buck
 
 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote:

 OK, thanks. I don't understand how he can do both with full commitment if he's 
so sure TM is a religious practice. TM would be OK with his being an 
evangelical, but evangelicalism would most definitely not be OK with his doing 
TM.
 
Please do pass on anything he tells you about his conversations with Jerry 
Jarvis. (You could pass on to him--to Bill--my comments too if you wanted to. 
I'd be fascinated to hear his response.)
 

 << He does his program every day, twice a day now that he's retired. Goes to 
church a couple times a week too - he also has been having ongoing 
conversations with Jerry Jarvis the last couple months. He spoke with him a 
couple hours last about a week before Christmas. I'll pass on any good info or 
stories if Bill gives me any. >>
 --------------------------------------------
 On Mon, 1/6/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... <authfriend@... 
mailto:authfriend@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Marshy and Religion
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, January 6, 2014, 6:44 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 What do you mean
 by "TM aficionado"? He sure doesn't sound like
 one to me.
 << In honor
 of what FFL was supposed to be and sometimes is, I offer a
 piece of writing sent to me by a friend who is both a devout
 Christian and a TM aficionado. Those of you reading may not
 agree or like it, but I think it makes a number of good
 points. >>
 
 
 
 Maharishi Defines Himself Through the Spiritual Regeneration
 Movement
 
 M defines himself as the instrument through which a
 precious knowledge, lost after Shankara’s revival, will be
 given back to the world: “It was the concern of Guru
 Deva, His Divinity Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, to enlighten
 all men everywhere that resulted in the foundation of the
 worldwide Spiritual Regeneration Movement in 1958, five
 years after his departure from us.”(p.16) 
 
 And again, “...the SRM (was) founded with the sole
 purpose of spiritually regenerating the lives of all men in
 every part of the world. (p.21) 
 
 Guru Deva was M’s guru, the Spiritual Regeneration
 Movement (SRM) was created by M, and it is significant that
 the original name for M’s movement was “Spiritual
 Regeneration”. 
 
 This is heavy stuff. These are words that belong to the
 domain of religion and can only be understood in that
 context. If M’s explicit aim was to “spiritually
 regenerate the world” by spreading enlightenment, creating
 a society where every action of the individual was “in
 accordance with all the laws of nature”, i.e. in Christian
 terms “without sin”, the accomplishment of this aim
 would represent no less an event in spiritual significance
 than the life and death of Jesus Christ. It is difficult to
 talk about TM not being a “religion” for those who
 center their lives around the practice of the technique, and
 study the teaching’s of M. For those people who take TM
 “seriously”, who devote themselves to both the practice
 and to M, the following statements (in italics below)
 concerning an online Webster dictionary definition of
 religion can be honestly made:
 
 
 
 Webster Definition Of Religion
 
 re·li·gion noun \ri-ˈli-jən\
 
 
 
 : the belief in a god or in a group of gods. TM teaches a
 great deal about the nature of god, about getting the favor
 of gods, and about direct experience of God.
 
 
 
 : an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used
 to worship a god or a group of gods. TM teaches a system of
 beliefs concerning the nature of spiritual growth, for a fee
 the organization offers spiritual ceremonies (Yagyas),
 performed by specialists, for obtaining the favors of the
 gods for the acquisition of specified blessings. All of
 these are based on faith in the accuracy of M’s teaching.
 
 
 
 : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very
 important to a person or group. There are many people who
 completely devote their lives and their fortunes to M and
 the TM movement.
 
 
 
 Full Definition of RELIGION
 
 1
 
 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of
 religion> The TM organization offers full time monastic
 positions to certain qualified persons, allowing them to
 become Hindu monks and nuns.
 
 
 
 b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural
 (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or
 observance Success with the TM technique is based on
 regular practice. Initiates start out with 20 minutes twice
 a day, peopl with advanced training often graduate to 90
 minutes twice a day. This is represents a serious
 commitment to “the supernatural”. While the benefits of
 TM help sustain this commitment, there is certainly an
 element of faith that is also required. M also talks about
 the necessity of faith to achieve the goals of TM.
 
 2
 
 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious
 attitudes, beliefs, and practices. The teaching of M
 (“attitudes, beliefs, and practices”) have certainly
 been codified and institutionalized over the past 50 years.
 
 3
 
 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness The
 term “scrupulous conformity” is a good description
 especially of the people that live in TM communities, in
 terms of dress, language, diet, and overall lifestyle.
 
 4
 
 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with
 ardor and faith The teachings of TM include a specific set
 of beliefs (life after death, reincarnation, the nature of
 spiritual growth, etc), and the “ardor and faith” to
 which these are held can be witnessed by speaking to almost
 any committed practitioner. M’s expressed goal of
 “spiritually regenerating the world” is a certainly a
 cause that many devote their lives to.
 
 
 
 The Bhagavad Gita and TM Holy Tradition As Scripture
 
 “The BG is the highest expression of divine
 intelligence understandable by man.” (4:1, p.252)
 
 This is a pretty profound religious statement.
 
 “This path of action for gaining success in the world
 and freedom in divine consciousness has a long tradition. 
 In its content it is eternal. Even if in time its purity is
 lost and it is forgotten by man, each time it is restored in
 the world by a wave of revival that comes from God.”
 (p.247)
 
 There it is, you either accept this as from God or you
 don’t. 
 
 
 
 “It is deplorable that such precious accounts of life on
 the highest human level as are to be found in the historical
 material of ancient India should have been regarded as myth.
 They should, on the contrary, be recognized as a most
 useful history of the highest civilization that has ever
 existed on earth.” (p.254)
 
 There are many that might accuse M of being a bit
 egocentric about his country’s history.
 
 
 
 4:2
 
 “The holy tradition of great masters, which
 responsible for reviving the teaching after every lapse, has
 captured the minds and heart of lovers of Truth in every
 age. It is not merely held in high regard, but has come to
 be actually worshipped by seekers of Truth and knowers of
 Reality.” (p.257)
 
 This is religion. I have a feeling M wishes he
 hadn’t written that.
 
 
 
 TM As Fundamentalism
 
 “It may be added that only through TM, which is the
 direct way to gain PC and rise finally to GC, can absolute
 purity be lived in daily life.” (p.312)
 
 This is not only religion, this is fundamentalism! 
 Maharishi presented TM as the only effective way, the “one
 way” to enlightenment, and himself as its messenger. 
 Being a member of the Christian evangelical community, I
 have to say that this has a familiar ring to it. 



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