> I would like to know how so many other skin boys > saw and heard that which Jerry did not. > Correction:
The so-called personal secretaries and/or door-watchers were Conny Larsson, Billy Clayton, Rob McCutchean, Ned Wynn, and Casey Coleman; and NONE of them were ever skin boys. >From what I've read, nobody working for MMY could even keep up with him on any given day. So, if true that MMY was that active way past 12:00 AM at night after everyone else had gone to sleep, and STILL managed to get up the next morning at daybreak and then work all day, I'd say this guy was simply AWSEOME! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Richard Williams <pundits...@gmail.com>wrote: > > I would like to know how so many other skin boys > > saw and heard that which Jerry did not. > > > We've only heard from about three skin boys so far, and none of them said > they saw anything with their own eyes. From what I've read, MMY used to > have an open door most of the time with a TMr guard at the door all the > time. None of the skin boys I've read about ever saw MMY having sex with > anyone. This is a fact. Otherwise, I guess we would have heard something > more about it.Go figure. > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com>wrote: > >> >> >> he has had doubts as to whether or not TM and Christianity are compatible >> ever since I roomed with him on a residence course in 1975 - he has been >> having more doubts lately due to my corrupting influence as I pass on all >> things I find about TM both the positive and negative. I think he likes >> talking to Jerry on some level because it re-affirms his desire to believe >> TM is a gooooood thang - he did touch on some of the allegations about M's >> dalliances with women with Jerry and Jarvis said those things absolutely >> never happened. At least, he never saw them. >> >> Were I to be asking the questions, I would like to know how so many other >> skin boys saw and heard that which Jerry did not. But maybe Bill will ask >> him that sometime. Jerry did tell my friend he is not too keen on the >> behavior of many of the TM big wigs these days, but they did not get into >> specifics. >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Mon, 1/6/14, authfri...@yahoo.com <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Marshy and Religion >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Monday, January 6, 2014, 10:18 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> OK, thanks. I don't understand how he can >> do both with full commitment if he's so sure TM is a >> religious practice. TM would be OK with his being an >> evangelical, but evangelicalism would most definitely not be >> OK with his doing TM. >> Please do pass on anything he tells you about his >> conversations with Jerry Jarvis. (You could pass on to >> him--to Bill--my comments too if you wanted to. I'd be >> fascinated to hear his response.) >> << He does his >> program every day, twice a day now that he's retired. >> Goes to church a couple times a week too - he also has been >> having ongoing conversations with Jerry Jarvis the last >> couple months. He spoke with him a couple hours last about a >> week before Christmas. I'll pass on any good info or >> stories if Bill gives me any. >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> On Mon, 1/6/14, authfriend@... <authfriend@...> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Marshy and Religion >> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> >> Date: Monday, January 6, 2014, 6:44 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you mean >> >> by "TM aficionado"? He sure doesn't sound >> like >> >> one to me. >> >> << In honor >> >> of what FFL was supposed to be and sometimes is, I offer a >> >> piece of writing sent to me by a friend who is both a >> devout >> >> Christian and a TM aficionado. Those of you reading may >> not >> >> agree or like it, but I think it makes a number of good >> >> points. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Maharishi Defines Himself Through the Spiritual >> Regeneration >> >> Movement >> >> >> >> M defines himself as the instrument through which a >> >> precious knowledge, lost after Shankara’s revival, will >> be >> >> given back to the world: “It was the concern of Guru >> >> Deva, His Divinity Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, to >> enlighten >> >> all men everywhere that resulted in the foundation of the >> >> worldwide Spiritual Regeneration Movement in 1958, five >> >> years after his departure from us.”(p.16) >> >> >> >> And again, “...the SRM (was) founded with the sole >> >> purpose of spiritually regenerating the lives of all men >> in >> >> every part of the world. (p.21) >> >> >> >> Guru Deva was M’s guru, the Spiritual Regeneration >> >> Movement (SRM) was created by M, and it is significant >> that >> >> the original name for M’s movement was “Spiritual >> >> Regeneration”. >> >> >> >> This is heavy stuff. These are words that belong to >> the >> >> domain of religion and can only be understood in that >> >> context. If M’s explicit aim was to “spiritually >> >> regenerate the world” by spreading enlightenment, >> creating >> >> a society where every action of the individual was “in >> >> accordance with all the laws of nature”, i.e. in >> Christian >> >> terms “without sin”, the accomplishment of this aim >> >> would represent no less an event in spiritual significance >> >> than the life and death of Jesus Christ. It is difficult >> to >> >> talk about TM not being a “religion” for those who >> >> center their lives around the practice of the technique, >> and >> >> study the teaching’s of M. For those people who take TM >> >> “seriously”, who devote themselves to both the >> practice >> >> and to M, the following statements (in italics below) >> >> concerning an online Webster dictionary definition of >> >> religion can be honestly made: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Webster Definition Of Religion >> >> >> >> re·li·gion noun \ri-ˈli-jən\ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> : the belief in a god or in a group of gods. TM teaches a >> >> great deal about the nature of god, about getting the >> favor >> >> of gods, and about direct experience of God. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> : an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules >> used >> >> to worship a god or a group of gods. TM teaches a system >> of >> >> beliefs concerning the nature of spiritual growth, for a >> fee >> >> the organization offers spiritual ceremonies (Yagyas), >> >> performed by specialists, for obtaining the favors of the >> >> gods for the acquisition of specified blessings. All of >> >> these are based on faith in the accuracy of M’s >> teaching. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very >> >> important to a person or group. There are many people who >> >> completely devote their lives and their fortunes to M and >> >> the TM movement. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Full Definition of RELIGION >> >> >> >> 1 >> >> >> >> a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year >> of >> >> religion> The TM organization offers full time >> monastic >> >> positions to certain qualified persons, allowing them to >> >> become Hindu monks and nuns. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the >> supernatural >> >> (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or >> >> observance Success with the TM technique is based on >> >> regular practice. Initiates start out with 20 minutes >> twice >> >> a day, peopl with advanced training often graduate to 90 >> >> minutes twice a day. This is represents a serious >> >> commitment to “the supernatural”. While the benefits >> of >> >> TM help sustain this commitment, there is certainly an >> >> element of faith that is also required. M also talks >> about >> >> the necessity of faith to achieve the goals of TM. >> >> >> >> 2 >> >> >> >> : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious >> >> attitudes, beliefs, and practices. The teaching of M >> >> (“attitudes, beliefs, and practices”) have certainly >> >> been codified and institutionalized over the past 50 >> years. >> >> >> >> 3 >> >> >> >> archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness The >> >> term “scrupulous conformity” is a good description >> >> especially of the people that live in TM communities, in >> >> terms of dress, language, diet, and overall lifestyle. >> >> >> >> 4 >> >> >> >> : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with >> >> ardor and faith The teachings of TM include a specific >> set >> >> of beliefs (life after death, reincarnation, the nature of >> >> spiritual growth, etc), and the “ardor and faith” to >> >> which these are held can be witnessed by speaking to >> almost >> >> any committed practitioner. M’s expressed goal of >> >> “spiritually regenerating the world” is a certainly a >> >> cause that many devote their lives to. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Bhagavad Gita and TM Holy Tradition As Scripture >> >> >> >> “The BG is the highest expression of divine >> >> intelligence understandable by man.” (4:1, p.252) >> >> >> >> This is a pretty profound religious statement. >> >> >> >> “This path of action for gaining success in the world >> >> and freedom in divine consciousness has a long tradition. >> >> In its content it is eternal. Even if in time its purity >> is >> >> lost and it is forgotten by man, each time it is restored >> in >> >> the world by a wave of revival that comes from God.” >> >> (p.247) >> >> >> >> There it is, you either accept this as from God or >> you >> >> don’t. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> “It is deplorable that such precious accounts of life on >> >> the highest human level as are to be found in the >> historical >> >> material of ancient India should have been regarded as >> myth. >> >> They should, on the contrary, be recognized as a most >> >> useful history of the highest civilization that has ever >> >> existed on earth.” (p.254) >> >> >> >> There are many that might accuse M of being a bit >> >> egocentric about his country’s history. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 4:2 >> >> >> >> “The holy tradition of great masters, which >> >> responsible for reviving the teaching after every lapse, >> has >> >> captured the minds and heart of lovers of Truth in every >> >> age. It is not merely held in high regard, but has come >> to >> >> be actually worshipped by seekers of Truth and knowers of >> >> Reality.” (p.257) >> >> >> >> This is religion. I have a feeling M wishes he >> >> hadn’t written that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> TM As Fundamentalism >> >> >> >> “It may be added that only through TM, which is the >> >> direct way to gain PC and rise finally to GC, can absolute >> >> purity be lived in daily life.” (p.312) >> >> >> >> This is not only religion, this is fundamentalism! >> >> Maharishi presented TM as the only effective way, the >> “one >> >> way” to enlightenment, and himself as its messenger. >> >> Being a member of the Christian evangelical community, I >> >> have to say that this has a familiar ring to it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
