"It looks like you've changed your mind about the bun-hopping-levitation too."
I have no idea why you would say that. I thought when I was doing them that the
sutras were a mildly interesting practice, but not worth the time for the
experiences I was having. I never one of those who thought TM and TMSP was
something good to do even if you were not having pleasant experiences or at
least useful experiences.
levitation sutra was sometimes fun and exhilarating to practice and if I had
had any sense I would have just done TM and gone straight into levitation
sutra, but I was snookered into believing M was telling us the truth when he
said you have to do all the OTHER sutras before you do the flying sutra.
I think the amount of time is not worth the pay off (which is very little IMO)
with TMSP and I have never believed group TMSP will create world peace or even
lower crime rate. Ask all the people who have been raped, robbed or killed in
Jefferson County there in Iowa.
As to Barry's spending lots of money, if he had it and he enjoyed what he spent
it on, why not? Hell, you can lay down 5K on a single yagya with the TMO with
not nearly so much fun result as going to Disney.
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On Fri, 1/17/14, Richard Williams <pundits...@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible thing.
To: "Richard J. Williams" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 17, 2014,
From what I've read, Rama left several
million dollars, most of that given to him by his students
to support his extravagant lifestyle. Barry probably gave
Rama over $10,000 to be able to go see a movie with Rama.
So, I wonder what that has taught Barry about giving money
to people for spiritual instruction. What happened to all
the money?
So, how much does it cost to fly Rama over to
Paris and put him up in a four-star hotel for a few days?
Barry's part of the donation probably cost him close to
$5,000. That's a lot of money to just spend just to be
able be with your teacher at Disneyland. Go figure.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014
at 12:40 PM, Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I changed my day so I could delve into what you had
written - I have gone through a lot of it and it answers
most of my questions. Mainly I wanted to know if you thought
Rama was legit in the beginning and if you witnessed any of
the power or sidhi demonstrations he did. Obviously yes to
both.
I had a hard time reading much of it because I began to feel
a great deal of energy as soon as I started reading, I mean
LOTS of energy. So I am taking the reading in stages. Read a
little. Sweep my floors a little, clean the bathrooms, come
down off the energy a little and read a little more.
Two minor questions I have are:
Did you know this guy? Mark Laxer
Have you ever read his book Take Me for a Ride: Coming of
Age in a Destructive Cult Paperback?
If so is it accurate?
That's all - back to the energy now and thanks for
talking and thanks for writing about Rama and all the other
things you wrote about.
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On Thu, 1/16/14, Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible
thing.
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 4:02 PM
Thanks Barry - I am gonna read what you have
written and if I have any questions after that, I'll
send 'em.
Got a busy day today, but I intend to start reading it
later
tonight.
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On Thu, 1/16/14, TurquoiseB <turquoi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible
thing.
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 8:21 AM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Michael Jackson
wrote:
>
> I would like to have a conversation with you about
your
time with Rama if you are willing. I am more than happy
to
do it privately if you like cause I know some on here are
going to revile you no matter what you say. So can we
talk?
I don't mind, as long as you
understand a few things at the outset. First, I rarely
even
think about the dude any more, except when something
triggers a memory, as something you said in one of your
posts did yesterday. Second, I don't waste my time
either condemning or defending him -- he was what he was,
and I don't much care what anyone thinks about him.
Third, however, and as you say, if we do it here you can
expect a lot of "piling on" from stalkers here.
They'll do it for various reasons. Some will start
piling on when they hear tales of thousands of his
students
witnessing siddhis they've *still* only read about,
after 30 years of pursuing them and after paying
thousands
of dollars to supposedly learn them. Some will pile on
because they don't like me, and they mistakenly
believe
that if they diss a former teacher I still have some
positive feelings about, it'll push my hot buttons
the
same way me saying things about MMY pushes theirs, and
thus
I'll react and get into one of the Robin-like
"confrontations" with them they so hope for.
That's not gonna happen, so we might as well do it
here.
:-) But I'll warn you ahead of time that my attention
span for "things Rama-related" is pretty damned
short these days, so if you have questions, make the
first
few "count," because at some point I'll get
tired of the whole thing and bail. :-)
That said, ask anything you want, and I'll do my best
to
answer your questions as honestly as I wrote "Road
Trip
Mind." That would be a good place to start if you
are
actually curious about the dude. I wrote it to get the
Rama-monkey off my back, and it worked. I don't
actually
have a great deal more to say about the guy than I said
in
that book.
http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html
