From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools
When one is on TTC does one get taught the mantra meanings or taught that they are meaningless sounds? A good question. On my teacher training course, we were NOT taught the real meanings of the mantras, only what to say when people asked about them, that they were "meaningless sounds." So the lying about their origins and real meanings is NOT just to people learning the TM technique, it was to people learning how to teach it as well. The puja, however, EVERYONE knew the meaning of. Thus when they told their students that there was nothing religious about the puja, they were lying. They still are, to the administrators of these "Quiet Time" schools, to the students learning TM, and to their parents. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools It appears some cognitive dissonance is setting in with Jude and Willytex. Not sure how many times I have to say it; my mantra is in many a book on mantra's and translates as an invocation to the goddess Lakshmi, say it 1000 times and she'll come to my aid. Apparently. That's the idea anyway. Feel free to continue saying everyone else is wrong.... Cognitive dissonance dealt with -- or rather NOT dealt with -- by paddling their leaky boats even further up the river Denial. Speaking as what neither of them is or ever was -- a TM teacher -- I confirm your contention that one can find *all* of the TM mantras in books of Indian mantras, along with the Hindu god or goddess each is associated with, and who you invoke each time you think or say the mantra. But since we're talking primarily about the U.S. Constitution here, and its prohibition of organized religion in schools, let's remind the other non-TM teachers here what was invoked when they learned TM, and when any one of the students in these schools learns TM. TM *cannot* be taught without this ceremony, and without the student participating in it. All TM teachers *know* what it says, because they not only had to memorize the Sanskrit, they had to memorize the English (or their native language) version, and were told explicitly to "hold it lively in their minds" while chanting the Sanskrit version. Thus they have no excuse for pretending that it's not religious in both origin and intent. Invocation: Whether pure or impure, whether all places are permeated by purity or impurity, Whoever opens himself to the expanded vision of unbounded awareness gains inner and outer purity. Invocation: To Lord Narayana, to lotus-born Brahma the Creator, to Vasishtha, to SHAKTI and his son, Parashara, to Vyasa, to Shukadeva, to the great GaudaPada, to Govinda, ruler among yogis, from him to his disciple, Shri Shankaracharya, from him to his disciples, Padma Pada and Hastamalaka, to him, Trotakacharya and Vartika-Kara, to others, to the eternal tradition of our abode of the wisdom of the Shrutis, Smritis and Purana, to the abode of compassion, to the personified glory of the Lord, to Shankara, emancipator of the world, I bow down. To Shankaracharya, the Emancipator, adored as Krishna and Badarayana, to the two authors of the commentary on the Brahma Sutras, I bow down To both expressions of the Divine, in Shankara, I bow down again and again At whose door the whole galaxy of gods pray for perfection day and night Adorned with immeasurable glory, preceptor of the whole world, having bowed to Him we gain complete fulfillment. Skilled in dispelling the cloud of ignorance of the people, the bestower of happiness, the glorious emancipator, Brahmananda Sarasvati, full of brilliance, Him I bring to my awareness. Offering the invocation to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering a seat to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering a ablution to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering cloth to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering sandalpaste to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offereing full rice to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering a flower to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering incense to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering light to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering water to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering fruit to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering water to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering a betel leaf to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering a coconut to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down Offering camphor light. White as camphor, the incarnation of kindness, the essence of creation garlanded by the Serpent-King. Ever dwelling in the lotus of my heart, Lord Shiva with Mother Divine to Him I bow down. Offering light to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering water to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Offering a handful of flowers Guru Dev is the glory of Brahma the Creator, Lord Vishnu the Maintainer, and the great Lord Shiva Guru is the glory of the Supreme Transcendent personified, to Him, to the glory of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. The Unbounded, like the endless canopy of the sky, the omnipresent in all creation, the sign of That has been revealed, to Him, to Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. Guru Dev, Shri Brahmananda, Guru Dev, in the glory of the bliss of the Absolute, in the glory of transcendental joy, in the glory of Unity, the very embodiment of knowledge, who is beyond the universe like the sky, as the goal of "that thou art" and other (Shrutis which grant eternal unity of life). The One, the Eternal, the Pure, the Immovable, the Witness of all intellects, whose status transcends thought-- the Transcendent along with the three gunas, the true preceptor, to Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. The blinding darkness of ignorance has been removed by the application of the ointment of knowledge, the eye of knowledge has been opened by Him, therefore to Him, to Shri Guru Dev, bow down. Offering a handful of flowers to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev, I bow down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : Not the bija mantras. Good point, especially when you take the actual meaning of mantras into account. The mantras used in TM have no semantic meaning. Right, they just happen to be identical to some that do. >>>>
