---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
So at what point did the price raising come? Long before we became Scorpionland, about 1999 during or just before the NATO strike on Yugoslavia. But it went up even more just before the Iraq war. I'm not saying there is a connection myself. It was just a constant game to raise money. It backfired anyway. What I mean is, did M raise the price of TM and exhort everyone to teach as many as possible which resulted in some Governors going rogue and teaching for a lesser price directly contrary to what Marshy wanted before the scorpion nation deal? Yes. Or did that happen after The UK was no longer a scorpion nation? And who was it that stood up in the conference call and suggested lowering the price, was it Chris Greathead or Colin Beckley? LOL, it was Colin. I sat in on that one and applauded his balls in standing up for himself. It went like this "Maharishi wants us to concentrate on raising coherence and to do this we need more people doing group flying but mostly we need new meditators" Colin Beckley says "Well why don't we lower the price so we can teach more!" Seemed reasonable but you don't question decisions of the reesh, especially with non-governors listening in. It went on for ages getting really heated. Most teachers would argue that the amount they teach stays the same regardless of cost and that high prices encourage people who are more likely to keep doing it. I think that's a bit of True Believerism myself, adjusting your beliefs to stay in favour when things are beyond your control. Colin's point was that he taught in an area with a large student population and they'd always laugh when he told them the price at the end of an intro talk. Most students struggle to buy second hand clothes let alone fork out £500 for meditation classes. I never met Colin but he was apparently a keen and devoted teacher who thought that Marshy had made a big mistake. Of course, the idea that Marshy was capable of making mistakes is enough to seriously raise eyebrows. Anyway, he quit after that. But after Marshy died the price came down very swiftly to it's current structure which matches to earnings, and then you can get grants from David Lynch I think. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/2/14, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Sal To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 9:13 Scorpion Nation? Ah, that takes me back. 2005 it was, the TMO in the UK had always been strong, and generous, we had three large academies, a purpose built town and a network of lively centres. Marshy's favourite group of devotees, always willing to cough up for yagyas and any other project that came along. Quite the role model for a perfect society you'd think. I was living in a TM centre at the time, not as a devotee, I just needed somewhere to live. They had closed all the academies to pay for the pundit project and encourage us to build vastu ones. Even the one I lived in which was pretty annoying but there you are. But I wasn't a believer at that point, not by a long stretch. I'd seen enough fraud and flakery and was there strictly as a "take what you need and leave the rest" type. And even that was wearing thin, I was having to avoid all broadcasts on the Marshy channel because they made my skin crawl, except for the weekly press conference. Wish I'd taped some of that, that would be youtube gold. Especially the one where Marshy said that the reason the US hadn't caught Bin Laden was because of our coherence creating and laughed! A surreal and disturbing moment and Hagelin tried to deny he'd meant that but the journalist wasn't convinced, me neither. Anyway, after the Iraq invasion Marshy decided that was the last straw and called the office at Skem to tell the assembled governors that he was closing the movement in the UK as our national consciousness was too poisonous to deserve what he was offering. Amid all the wailing, tears and protests Marshy asked if there was any good reason why he shouldn't. Wish I'd been there to answer that, first there is the obvious illogic of the "feeding nectar to the scorpion" if the ME worked then we need more TM not less. If it doesn't work we might as well carry on regardless. The idea that there is a critical mass whereby the ME is bad until the threshold is passed and then it becomes good is another layer of madness on top of all the others. It did him no favours. Then there's the political argument. No one liked Tony Blair, he just wasn't as bad as the opposition. That's how democracy works, it's a crap system of government but better than the alternative. Nobody prioritised war when they voted as every party was in favour anyway. Most of the western world went along with the idea that it would be quick and painless and we'd be rid of a vile dictator and be able to control the oil supply much easier. I don't know what the real reason was, maybe Marshy actually believed his delusions about the world, maybe he felt he had to act like it was all real regardless of whether it made sense or not. Maybe he was just nuts at that point, but he'd done it before with Denmark (?) for something to do with the national leader saying the wrong thing, can't remember what happened but it was well trivial. The whole concept is petty and spiteful and really upset a lot of friends of mine who sincerely believe all this stuff. It seemed like a sort of megalomania but he gave everyone the idea he was doing it for their own good. Narcissism? Paranoia? They say he tripled the price because a group of teachers from the UK asked him to lower it. Anyway, I laughed when I heard about Scorpion land. It was the icing on the cake really. I went off Marshy very early on, I didn't believe a word of the vedic "science" I thought Tony Nader and John Hagelin were either insane or lying. I couldn't watch 10 minutes of the channel without shuddering in terror. Then I heard about the Kaplan letter and joined FFL so I could read it in the files section. And then I thought I'd make just one post.... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Sal, having been highly entertained by some references you have made regarding the "scorpion nation" deal, I wanted to ask if you remember where you were and what your reaction was upon hearing of the Old Goat's condemnation of your country? Just curious.
