I am not a fan of Wilber.. I only read on of his books I think it was that one. I believe he is an example of using physics poetry to make it seem as if we are having a meaningful discussion about things we are not in a position to meaningfully understand or discuss. He reminds me of Maharishi that way although I believe he is probably more sincere about the physics connections and believes his own rap. I do not believe that proof by analogy is useful especially in non sensory realms. I get the limits of reductionism. The bigger problem is that we don't have an intuitive basis to discuss what goes on in subsensory areas like consciousness or at the field levels of matter..
But for me the first step would be to toss out all the assumptive pseudoscience drivel spouted by people who don't have the math background necessary to discuss these concepts meaningfully. But wait, Hagelin DOES have the math! Shit, I don't know. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote : On 5/16/2014 3:45 PM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: > High exposure leads to an erosion of the ability to distinguish > internal and external experiences. Where else but in our consciousness would knowledge be structured? According to Ken Wilber, consciousness is the having of perceptions, thoughts, and feelings; awareness. Scientists want to find an activity that has a neural correlate that is part of the brain or some kind of global pattern of brain activity. If found, there should be a predictive of conscious awareness and would be demonstrated with brain imaging techniques, such as EEG and fMRI. For TMers the most thorough account of the spiritual approach may be Wilber's book The Spectrum of Consciousness. Wilber compares western and eastern ways of thinking about the mind and consciousness. According to Wilber, consciousness is a spectrum. Ordinary awareness is at one end, and more profound types of awareness are found at higher levels. Work cited: 'The Spectrum of Consciousness' by Ken Wilber pp. 3–16 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com