Of course I am familiar with the EEG of TM. In fact I was a subject for
a study and the University of Washington. I didn't produce alpha waves
but theta. Alpha can be induced by just simple breathing techniques.
Theta and delta are more indicative of advanced meditation states.
Have you ever been a subject in an EEG study? Do you have your own
personal EEG device? You know they are inexpensive? Perhaps I should
get one and do studies of a wider range of meditation techniques which
the TMO won't do.
On 05/31/2014 08:27 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You're familiar with the EEG of TM and other practices?
And I'm not making stuff up, though I understand why you might want to
believe so.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
Sorry Lawson, but I put in years of study about this with very real
teachers plus I also learned to teach TM. You did not and are just
making shit up. I understand you want the "home team to win" but this
ain't a ballgame.
On 05/31/2014 02:18 PM, LEnglish5@... <mailto:LEnglish5@...>
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
You are assuming that it is only the mantra that is different about TM.
You are also assuming that, without looking at the EEG, that all
practices that use the "proper" mantra work the same.
Neither assumption may be correct.
The research I am referring to was done on:
13 Tibetan Buddhists, 15 QiGong, 14 Sahaja Yoga, 14 Ananda Marga
Yoga, 15 Zen practitioners. All of them showed the same general pattern:
http://www.amaye.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/med-connectivity-EEG-tomog.pdf
The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain regions
in meditation suggests that interaction between the self process
functions is minimized, and that constraints on the self process by
other processes are minimized, thereby leading to the subjective
experience of non-involvement, detachment and letting go, as well as
of all-oneness and dissolution of ego borders during meditation.
I haven't seen the research they have been doing on TM, but I am
assuming, from the enthusiasm that Fred Travis has revealed when
referring to it, that they are finding that TM has a different effect
than any of the above practices on the same measure.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :
On 05/31/2014 10:48 AM, LEnglish5@... <mailto:LEnglish5@...>
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
The thing is, Vipassana and virtually other practice besides TM,
affects the brain in a different way than TM.
No true at all. There are lots of other meditation programs that
use beej mantras (at teach at a fraction of the price of TM).
They will get similar or better results than TM often because the
beej mantra selected actually suits the individual better than
the TM method.
Here's apparently your theme song. :-D
http://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs
And if they teach TM in India according to the student's personal
deity what do when it's Shiva?