you are talking junk. MMY and his sales organization were nowhere near perfect. 
Huckster and liars - still are.


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Michael, Michael, this is so radical of you!  That MMY and the TMO had 
shortcomings in your opinion?  You are being so harsh on MMY and the TMO.  You 
make it sound like they were neaaaarrrrly perfect, but just came up a little 
short.  And those persnickety people who demanded perfection turned up their 
noses and went elsewhere.  I see now. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :


It is only my opinion, but I think the number of people who were willing to go 
see Robin and to become part of his group is indicative of the shortcomings of 
both Marshy and his TMO - in other words, if either of them had been what they 
had claimed to be, no one would have looked twice at Robin.



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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :


Wowzer.  I don't think that's the issue Michael, this seeing of other teachers. 
 That was not the problem the primary problem with RWC.  Yes, if you became a 
follower, evidently there were consequences.

But the situation there, as I understand it, was a frontal assault on the 
organization to usurp the authority of the existing teacher  You had someone 
who felt he had a mandate to move the organization in a different direction.

As I recall it, Robin wasn't out to set himself up as the Movement head or 
leader or anything else. He simply didn't agree with some things that were 
happening. (Because I was never interested in the TM org or the politics of it 
all and had never had aspirations to become a teacher the details of this were 
not important to me other than I liked his chuztpah and was attracted to the 
interesting vibe of the thing. And I wanted to see if I could tell if he was 
enlightened or not, get a chance to check out this outspoken guy.) He wanted to 
have a voice and let people know this and so a group formed around him once he 
made the move to FF and started giving seminars. Before that he simply lived in 
Victoria surrounded by a few Canadian TM teachers who still meditated, who took 
being a TM teacher seriously and who revered MMY but who also believed Robin to 
be enlightened and
able to "help" them reach enlightenment by separating and recognizing the 
demonic from the divine within themselves. He became "enlightened" in 1976 and 
moved to FF in 1982 so there was a lot of time where there was simply a 
close-knit group of friends hanging out, eating meals together and getting the 
hell confronted out of them. It was around 1983 I believe, that the World 
Teacher Seminar emerged but he never had designs on taking over the TM 
Movement, I'm not sure he felt there was much hope for it by that time but he 
still loved MMY.

Looky here.  That's exactly what SSRS did.  Was there a problem? No. Why? 
Because he set up a separate organization and made his pitch in a different 
venue.  Did it work?  Yes, many people went into his camp.  Did it elicit the 
kind of reaction from the TMO that the RWC
did?  Not in the slightest.  Does that indicate to you that the two situations 
were different?  Probably not.  To anyone else who doesn't have a stick up 
their butt about the TMO?  Yes.







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