Richard, this reminds me of something David Deida talks about on youtube. I'm
gonna paraphrase: that we're like the light coming in through a broken, dirty,
stained glass window. Successful therapy leads to fixing the broken glass;
successful yoga leads to cleaning the dirty glass; but successful spiritual
practice leads one to experience that they are the light. Thus endeth fixing
and cleaning!
On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:42 AM, "'Richard J. Williams'
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
On 8/19/2014 9:39 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>Richard, your comment here about being either bound or free is pretty
>profound. Can we not be both? A favorite book title I've shared before:
>Freedom Doesn't Mind Its Chains.
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We are either free or we are bound. According to ancient Indian
sages, Kapila, Gotama, and Patanjali, human existence is bound by
suffering. Why? Because, there is birth, which is painful; disease,
lamentation and grief in human life, which is painful; and old age
and death, which are all painful. And, because of reincarnation, the
realization that suffering is endless and cyclic, never-ending
rounds of rebirth and pain. We are all bound by our actions of the
past (karma), the natural law of cause and effect. At first reading
this sounds very depressing and negative, which would cause the
reflective reader to ask themselves "If we are bound, by what means
can we free ourselves?" If free, would there be any need for a yoga
practice?
What you need to need do is try to "burn up" the latent effects
(samskaras) of your past actions through yoga practices (tapas) and
go around doing good (karma yoga), dedicating all your actions to
your family and for the good of all. You are only going to get as
much freedom as you are going to get.
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>On Monday, August 18, 2014 3:15 PM, "'Richard J. Williams'
>pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>On 8/18/2014 12:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
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>>Much to think about as always. I like the idea that everyone thinks they see
>>the truth, letting go of that is an essential first step. I think I have a
>>well functioning bullshit detector, but is that the case? We need some sort
>>of framework to stay sane but hopefully one that doesn't dismiss the
>>potentially useful.
>>=
>>It works!
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>>Learning TM changed my life, but not in the advertised way. Life has always
>>been good and I've always been thrilled just to be alive and feel the rain.
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>We are all either bound or free. If
bound, by what means can we free
ourselves? If we are already free, why
would we need a yoga or a meditation
technique?
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>Where does it go from here? Finding that out is the best bit.
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>Here is the framework for your
non-functioning bullshit detector. I
hope it is useful - it works for me:
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>"What I'm talking about is slowly
lifting up off the sofa and sitting
>in midair for two to three minutes. Or
stepping up off the ground in
>the desert and then flying around
several feet above the ground for a
>while." - TurquoiseB
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>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
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>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
>>I think it is rather difficult to parse out the 'Biggest Most Meaningful
>>Event in your entire lives!!!'=
>>For me learning TM was a significant event in light of subsequent events. But
>>several years before, an event occurred that eventually led to TM, and I
>>think that prior event was more significant. As every event is interconnected
>>to other events, it is somewhat arbitrary to say exactly which one might have
>>been the linchpin of the whole thing.
>>=If one wants to trace events, the Big Bang could be said to have started it
>>all, assuming that idea is true. Awakening could be considered a big event,
>>but it is not meaningful because it is beyond the ability of thought to
>>parse, and it is just a passing experience that illuminates life, but its
>>implications turn out to be more useful over time than the actual experience,
>>grand as it might have been — a blip of insight, but a blip nonetheless. To
>>lift your finger requires the entire history of the universe behind it if one
>>thinks in terms of time and space and significance. So how would you choose?
>>Satire and humour show us things that our conditioning would otherwise blind
>>us from seeing.
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>>By the way if you are chagrined that means you are 'distressed or embarrassed
>>at having failed or been humiliated'. I think of the TMO as an intellectually
>>challenged organisation and it has a lot of behavioural faults, in my
>>opinion, and it acts with a cult mentality born of its religious roots. TM
>>served me well for many many years, but its utility has reached the end of
>>the road for the most part.
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>>Yesterday I took a hike through the nearby forest. The result of mine
>>however, is classified. It was a nice description you made though, of the
>>hike you made yesterday. Why is it that everyone seems to think that what
>>they think is true? If the world is illusion, why not play in the sands of
>>time, what is so significant about that? If you have reality surely what
>>others say cannot bother you that much.
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>>I put an equal sign between paragraphs in case Neo is continuing its removal
>>of paragraph spacing.
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
>>I am chagrined for the three or four of you, who are into this.
>>Dim dreams and fantasies of old geezers. Do you guys really care about all of
>>this, still? I thought the big thing around here was to demonstrate
>>"mindfulness" and "being in the now" and "not being a cult member", and here
>>you all are delighting in this detailed satire of what appears to be the
>>Biggest Most Meaningful Event in your entire lives!!! TM and the TMO.
>>Seriously? Making fun of all the tired, spider-webby crap? Haven't moved on,
>>one bit, biggest damned thing that happened to any of you -
>>What do you people do the rest of the time, watch the grass grow, or work
>>crossword puzzles? You guys live in three different countries, with all the
>>creativity and adventure that conjures up, and instead, you sit and drool
>>over long ago memories, of the TMO, and tilting at absent windmills.
>>Enjoy that nursing home in your head, MJ, Sal, Anytax, and Barry - It looks
>>like they have early check-in...
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
>>This is priceless, up there with Barry's best productions.
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
>>A Day in the Life (of a TM'er)
>>Governor wakes up, but in fact he has not been asleep having witnessed his
>>sleep all <snip>
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