"And, if you don't mind my saying, it looks like your latest interest, Advaita, is leaving you dissatisfied as well.
Surprise!! not" THAT was a nice dose of advaita, too (that-in-terms-of-this-of-course). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : The teachers that inspired others Edg spoke only from their own experience, and if we didn't understand something, we said so. So, what if we were only fourth graders who had only a little more knowledge than a second grader. Even that little bit of knowledge was impressive to a second grader, and legitimate, I might add. We weren't trained, or paid to be Vedic scholars. But, you're just trying to get rise out of people, and give Michael a chance to say, "atta boy Edg, tell it like it is, Edg" And, if you don't mind my saying, it looks like your latest interest, Advaita, is leaving you dissatisfied as well. Surprise!! not ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Speak for yourself, Edg. You say, "We were hustlers with shiny shoes, a $200 suit and a $200 car. We were fucking chumps." But what you actually mean is "I was a hustler with shiny shoes, a $200 suit and a $200 car. I was a fucking chump." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Maharishi never gave a damn about us ever understanding "a philosophy made necessary" if the concept "transcendental" is the basis of it. Except for learning puja and checking notes, we never had "general philosophy 101" classes, never had exams, never had sub-leaders who could lead a discussion about philosophy, never were encouraged to study the Gita or other scriptures, never had any "must memorize" commands, etc. We were forbidden to read any other spiritual books. Yeah, Maharishi taught us by answering the mike-questions, but that was always informal and there was no "lesson plan" for the "students." In short we were put out into the public wilds completely unable to defend TM with concepts and logic.....except such as we were able to individually pony up when the moment came that someone asked a deeper question. We were JOKES, and we didn't know it, but because most of our audiences were as un-scholarly as we were, so we could bullshit to the max. Any PhD in philosophy candidate could have us tied up in knots and sweating buckets. Oh, we were told we were Totakacharya types.....the nice folks who were stupid but who would do great works none-the-less. We swallowed that shit like it was caviar. So don't go pushing Chapter 7 on me -- it's just window dressing in a billion dollar scam. I read the first six chapters and wore out three copies of the book underlining and adding comments and questions in the margins. After I got into Advaita, I read MMY's Gita one last time and I WAS APPALLED at the lack of consistency of how key concepts were used. Go ahead, try to find out what Maharishi would say are the defining DIFFERENCES "being, consciousness, isness, amness, transcendent, awareness, witness, soul, etc." I'll wait. No one....I repeat, NO ONE came off a TM teachers' training course being able to define these words without paradox or treating most of them as if they were synonyms of each other. We were hustlers with shiny shoes, a $200 suit and a $200 car. We were fucking chumps.
