When you stop repeating yourself for TM, I stop repeating myself agin it. Like 
most TM apologists, you fail to see how that which you criticize the most is 
exactly what you practice yourself. 



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 From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: We were kept bare foot and pregnant  (was Why 
MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
 


  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :


You like him and it, so be it. But Edg and all the rest of us who are free of 
Movement crap and its lying leader are much richer, much better off than we 
were when we were TM junkies. Addiction to anything including TM is still 
addiction.


You know Michael, you say this so often, I have to believe that maybe you are 
trying to convince yourself of it.

Why would someone spend so much time and effort expressing this same sentiment 
if they really believed it?

Wouldn't it be enough to say it a few times, and then move on.

Perhaps you can answer that for me.


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 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We were kept bare foot and pregnant  (was Why 
MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.



 
The teachers that inspired others Edg spoke only from their own experience, and 
if we didn't understand something, we said so.

So, what if we were only fourth graders who had only a little more knowledge 
than a second grader.  Even that little bit of knowledge was impressive to a 
second grader, and legitimate, I might add.

We weren't trained, or paid to be Vedic scholars.

But, you're just trying to get rise out of people, and give Michael a chance to 
say, "atta boy Edg, tell it like it is, Edg"

And, if you don't mind my saying, it looks like your latest interest, Advaita, 
is leaving you dissatisfied as well.

Surprise!!

not






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


Speak for yourself, Edg. You say, "We were hustlers with shiny shoes, a $200 
suit and a $200 car. We were fucking chumps."
But what you actually mean is "I was a hustler with shiny shoes, a $200 suit 
and a $200 car. I was a fucking chump." 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


Maharishi never gave a damn about us ever understanding "a philosophy made 
necessary" if the concept "transcendental" is the basis of it.  

Except for learning puja and checking notes, we never had "general philosophy 
101" classes, never had exams, never had sub-leaders who could lead a 
discussion about philosophy, never were encouraged to study the Gita or other 
scriptures, never had any "must memorize" commands, etc.  We were forbidden to 
read any other spiritual books.

Yeah,
Maharishi taught us by answering the mike-questions, but that was always 
informal and there was no "lesson plan" for the "students."  

In short we were put out into the public wilds completely unable to defend TM 
with concepts and logic.....except such as we were able to individually pony up 
when the moment came that someone asked a deeper question.  

We were JOKES, and we didn't know it, but because most of our audiences were as 
un-scholarly as we were, so we could bullshit to the max.  Any PhD in 
philosophy candidate could have us tied up in knots and sweating buckets.

Oh, we were told we were Totakacharya types.....the nice folks who were stupid 
but who would do great works none-the-less.  We swallowed that shit
like it was caviar.  

So don't go pushing Chapter 7 on me -- it's just window dressing in a billion 
dollar scam.

I read the first six chapters and wore out three copies of the book underlining 
and adding comments and questions in the margins.  After I got into Advaita, I 
read MMY's Gita one last time and I WAS APPALLED at the lack of consistency of 
how key concepts were used.  

Go ahead, try to find out what Maharishi would say are the defining DIFFERENCES 
"being, consciousness, isness, amness, transcendent, awareness, witness, soul, 
etc."  I'll wait.  No one....I repeat, NO ONE came off a TM teachers' training 
course being able to define these words without paradox or treating most of 
them as if they were synonyms of each other.   We were hustlers with shiny 
shoes, a $200 suit and a $200 car.  

We were fucking chumps.





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