Barry, Barry, Barry, did anyone say you had to meditate to have experiences of higher states of consciousnesses.
Let it go Barry. Time to let it go. You've got to expand your world past Maharishi, and the TM organization. It's a big world Barry. Lot's of things to see and explore. The TM movement is just on little bit of it. Exppaaaaaaaad those horizons a bit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 3:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris I should also add that the criteria for being included in the studies that Fred did was having witnessing sleep for a year. And someone should add that "witnessing sleep" may not mean shit. One of my science article clients runs a sleep clinic, so when writing articles about sleep disorders I've learned a few interesting things. Such as that there is a subset of patients who complain that they "Never fall asleep." Their subjective experience is that they never lose conscious awareness, so they're worried that they've got a sleep disorder, even though they display no symptoms of sleep deprivation. When hooked up to machines to monitor their physiology during sleep, these folks *are*, in fact, experiencing all of the classic cycles of sleep, along with their accompanying REM or lack of REM activity. It's just that they never lose their subjective awareness. In other words, a part of them is always awake, witnessing their subjective experience as they navigate the entire range of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. In the decade my client's practice has been open, he has treated maybe a couple of dozen people who report this. All of them are just normal people off the street. Not one of them meditates. Go figure.
