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Salyavin, I love your last paragraph: folklore in action; techno
ghost stories for the nuclear age. As for me, I believe there is
life somewhere else in the vast universe. And I think they are
more highly advanced than us and maybe here with us. And I think
it's great.
We can believe what we like. I have no opinion on intelligent
life elsewhere, we don't know the variables that allow for it to
develop. We could be unique or the universe could be teeming or
maybe there's just one or two per galaxy over it's entire
history. But the chances of there being other humanoids visiting
Earth at the just same time as we've understood where we are
cosmically? It beggars belief. Alien craft is the least likely
explanation for UFO's. But I hope it's true.
But at that point, I'm more like turq. It doesn't really impact
my life one way or the other. Either way, what is the action
step? (-:
I don't know, just enjoy the ride, the evolving myth. We are
apparently on the brink of something called "disclosure". We've
been here before a few times as I recall, it never amounts to
much but it's fun watching the TB's get excited that their
favourite daydream is to be officially confirmed.
But it won't be, the UFO's won't land and Maitreya won't appear.
It's the way of things. The connection between the two is that
people want there to be more, want there to be a reason and for
there to be salvation from a higher power, whether it's alien or
spiritual. We're talking deep human needs here.
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*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
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Sal doesn't like UFO's because they aren't scientific :-)
It's an interesting point Nabs. The thing is one can only get
scientific about something if it is available to study, UFO's are
so fleeting and ephemeral that there really isn't anything to
study other than hearsay or suspiciously absent film taken by
higher powers to keep the whole thing secret.
But a great many people have studied what they can about UFO
sightings, and done it with as much rigour as you can with such a
paucity of hard evidence. I'm not sure there is an encounter that
hasn't got a better explanation that doesn't involve us being
visited by beings from another world. And I don't just mean
explaining things away, to be convincing you have to show that
something more realistic happened, more credible and using
explanations we already understand and are known to happen in
certain circumstances. Even testing soil damage and skin burns
for alternative causes. People are being scientific about UFO's.
But here's the thing you overlook in your quip, I've been
interested in UFO's for as long as I remember, I've a got a shelf
full of the classic books on the subject. Even the true believer
stuff from "serious" researchers like Timothy Good and the
abductionists like Bud Hopkins. I bet I know all the great
encounters by heart - Cortile, Ramirez, Roswell, Pascagoula,
Ilkley Moor, Rendlesham...
I love it but I don't take it at face value. To me, UFO's are
folklore in action. The evolving myth of abduction and what they
are supposedly doing here are the legends of our time, a new
religion, encapsulating our fears about technology and promising
us freedom from our destructive ways, yet always remaining
remarkably evidence free. There's always a new vision to add to
the mythos but conveniently never any hard evidence to help
decide one way or the other. And the longer that scenario goes on
the more convinced any casual observer should be that we are
kidding ourselves, because deep down we like ghost stories and
that's really what they are. Something scary always just out of
reach. Techno ghost stories for the nuclear age.
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I didn't really read what sal has written below, but I think the
gist of it is, that he doesn't like the person who coined the
word "flying saucer"
Is that what his dissertation is about this time?
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There is not one astronaut who has NOT reported seeing UFO's,
sometimes huge and in large nubers, back to NASA and/or their
families.
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If Gordon is not crazy, then the American government is
purposefully, mindfully, ABSOLUTELY evil.
If there are aliens visiting us and we're not being told -- it
robs every person on Earth.
EVERY PERSON ON EARTH.
Neither you, nor I, nor anyone ever could possibly be who we are
now if we knew that UFOs are real.
IT. WOULD. CHANGE. EVERYTHING.
And that's why it might be kept a secret -- the concept "money"
would be bereft of allure.
If you say that it would NOT be "all that much of a big deal, cuz
everyone's so inured already by Hollywood films," then YOU DON'T
KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY.
Every person in every way: changed.
Agreed. Luckily I don;t suppose it will come to that. Which is a
shame as I'd be the happiest person on Earth if it turned out
that UFO's were alien spacecraft, but the truth of sightings
always turns out to be more mundane.
Take the name "flying saucers", everyone sees saucer shaped craft
but the name is a mistake from the first encounter anyone had.
Kenneth Arnold (an experienced pilot) saw a squadron of highly
reflective crescent shaped aircraft flying at great speed in a V
formation over the Rocky mountains in 1947. He described them as
flying like a saucer would if skipped across water.
A journalist made up the name /flying saucer/ and after that
everyone saw saucer shaped craft when they saw something
mysterious in the sky. The power of suggestion. Sadly there's no
such thing as a reliable witness and any one can be fooled,
Arnold most likely saw a flock of pelicans and mistook them for
unknown aircraft and miscalculated their distance from him. We
all make mistakes but the influence his mistake had is immeasurable.
Because we people are so unreliable, if I had to bet I would say
that Cooper saw some atmospheric effect from flying at supersonic
speed that no one had noticed before and mistook it for real
craft moving above him.
And early radar was hopelessly unreliable, the UK air defence
system in the cold war was always telling us that giant UFOs were
crossing the north sea but when planes were scrambled to look it
turned out to have been temperature inversions confusing the
equipment. When these anomalies were understood and ironed out
UFO reports stopped coming in. It's the way it goes, people see
stuff and imagination plugs any gaps, popular culture is rife
with imagery that came before the sightings. I can't trust myself
let alone anyone else!
I would like to see this film they took though but, I don't
suppose we ever will. That's the way
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