On 12/11/2014 3:17 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
According to Sam Harris, /"there is no scientific evidence that
consciousness exists in the physical world."/
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This is a physical world and I am conscious. That rather puts the
kibbosh on that idea.
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There is no physical world without consciousness. The idea is that in
order to be anything, to percieve anything, there has to be
consciousness. You are not the body - you are absolute pure
consciousness with an ego that thinks or assumes you are a body-mind.
But, that Sir, is an illusion. Can you specify just one physical
substance that would prove consciousness in the physical world?
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I suspect that what we have here is a category error. Consciousness
isn't a thing so you won't ever be able to remove it and dissect it.
Consciousness is a process, and one that can be measured and
predicted, even altered.
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I suspect you have not read Sam Harris.
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So to call this process a noun instead of an verb is your error and
why it gets so confusing. How the illusion of the outer world is
created is still a mystery though, but like all mysteries it is
fathomable.
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According to Harris, there is no creation, although /"consciousness is a
mystery"/ - that's the point. Science cannot explain consciousness.
/"Obviously consciousness is prior to everything else in the cosmos. In
fact, consciousness is all there is in the universe. The only certainty
you have is that you are self-conscious that you exist. Time, space and
physicality occur within consciousness, not the other way around. The
present is the only real moment of experience."/
*An Atheist’s Guide to Spirituality*
by Sam Harris
http://nautil.us/issue/16/nothingness/an-atheists-guide-to-spirituality
