You have had a difficult day? Gosh, what is meditation coming to? I am not
holding Jim to any standard. I am just pointing out he said one thing, but did
another. If I had the power to hold him to some standard, he would not be able
to break his word. The fun is people are erratic. It means you can play with
their foibles (or ignore them). The secret to keeping your word is to never
give it. We are too spongy and soft to act like inerrantly like vengeful gods
who can never be crossed, or else. There are those of us who try. Barry is
actually pretty consistent this way. Ah, to create a hell that would truly
terrify people into compliance with some stupid, stupid rule. Tax collectors
and legislators and rulers of countries have a tendency to fall in this
direction, as do religions.
I did not intend to convict Jim, a simple lynching without justice would have
sufficed. But that is just on FFL; on The Peak, he has installed himself as
Chief Magistrate, top of the food chain, and there, I wonder whether some
misstep of mine will coerce him to send me to the outer void someday. But on
FFL, he is just another piece of prey in the jungle, like the rest of us. FFL
is like the world, and The Peak is like TM. You can go to The Peak to rest (an
old folks home for the spiritually timid), and when you want to evolve, you
need a bit of resistance, so you can come over here to FFL, for exercise, to
put it into action.
From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
First, thank you xeno for giving a me a smile and a chuckle in what has
been an otherwise difficult day.
Second, I certainly can't argue with you.
On the other hand, (and maybe I'm not able to give you comments sufficient
thought), the world operates better when we give one another a little space.
In the current example, yes, Jim did interact with Barry.
In a court of law, sometimes the lawyer will demand a simple "yes", or "no".
But, without an explanation, you can't really get to the nuances of a case,
which may make quite a difference.
I find it rather comical that you would seem to hold Jim to this strict
standard, or definition of "interaction" when, really, that's not how the real
world works, except in legal contracts.
And even then, there can be different interpretations.
So, I find it perfectly acceptable that Jim would see fit to correct a
misconception.
Whether his "buttons were pushed", I have no idea.
I really wouldn't think so. It seemed that all he wanted to say was, "it
wasn't me, Barry", and "have a good day"
If you want to convict him on this basis, have at it. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one
did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the
misconception was deliberate or not. The main thing is if you say one thing and
do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule.
Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws
of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like
how gravity operates.
What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced
apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you
are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just
hang the bastard, innocent or guilty.
How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them?
INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have
that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just
like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of
interaction.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a
misconception.
for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as "interacting"
with Barry makes for a rather weak case.
maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so
hard.
that was rather comical.
but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any
rule, self imposed, or not.
so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting
with someone.
get a consensus, if you have a question about this.
or take a step back and realize there is the "letter" of intent, and the
"spirit" of intent.
this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim
has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind
of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery
handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send
the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote :
What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email
address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the
header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything
about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your
own FFL identity as well.
Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe
I'm wrong about this one.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a
misconception.
for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as "interacting"
with Barry makes for a rather weak case.
maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so
hard.
that was rather comical.
but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any
rule, self imposed, or not.
so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting
with someone.
get a consensus, if you have a question about this.
or take a step back and realize there is the "letter" of intent, and the
"spirit" of intent.
this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim
has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind
of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery
handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send
the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote :
What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email
address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the
header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything
about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your
own FFL identity as well.
Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe
I'm wrong about this one.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
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