you are living in a fantasy world of your own making if u believe the majority
of Hinduus see the gods as a metaphor. the number of incidents where Hindus
riot, rampage and kill their Muslim and Sikh neighbors for some insult to one
of the Hindoo deities belies your fantasy
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that
thinking Indians see the Hindu pantheon as metaphors. He thinks everyone in
India takes them literally. But MJ has never been to India and I'm sure the
place would come as a shock to him.
On 03/28/2015 11:27 AM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview
is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are
interperted literaly.
Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more
metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative.
This leads to confusion and misunderstanding, when both
groups read each other's literature.
Could it be JohnR is a literalist?
--- <anartaxius@...> wrote :
Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem
to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the
Illuminatus! triology of Shea & Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention
of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more
historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view
of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an
underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically
just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in
that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think
critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a
better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up
currently.
--- <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of
many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I
have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he
probably sees nothing wrong with.
When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from
religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof "scriptures" such as
the Gita. Bzzzzzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are
NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't
even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them.
Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO.
The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have "done research" on
the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is
"seeing" -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition.
While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that
any of these "seeings" have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people
who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-)
I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some
mechanism by which he thinks "proof" could be offered of Krishna's existence.
If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he
*does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an "authority"
said so. In other words, his only "proof" is the word "Maharishisez."
Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being
both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy
has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour
and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's
paradox, I don't know what is. :-)
As for the answer to "What's in the big pink box, man?" that is as much of a
koan as it was when posed in the movie "Buckaroo Banzai." Me, I kinda doubt
it's enlightenment. :-)
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