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From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of this AI stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in this article -- people have much more to fear from other people than they do from AIs. I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the idea of machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's a religious thang, in that they actually believe that creating intelligent life is something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. But for many others I think it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For them, shiny robots have taken the place in their catalog of Things To Fear alongside people they consider niggers and ragheads. I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more intelligent, and small minds find ways to become even smaller. I don't know how likely it is even though it's obviously possible. I think a big fear is that we really do make ourselves obsolete. We might create something better than us that considers us worthless or at least a subordinate system. We've done it already, society is a complex emergent system that depends on us but we sacrifice ourselves to it to keep it alive. Think how much more powerful a worldwide robotic brain would be in keeping us in our place! Perhaps the only robot code we need is to make sure we can pull out the plug? Or even something that can replace the job we do would be scary. And then there's autonomous battle machines, that's only going to end in tears but it isn't stopping them being built. But perhaps the biggest fear is a philosophical one. If we can create a cyber brain that works exactly the same way as ours that must definitively mean that we are simply our brains and there is no soul or spirit. That might hurt a lot of people more than unemployment or Skynet ever could. I don't know whether you got a chance to see the movie I raved about recently, "Ex Machina." IMO it's the most intelligent film about AI I've ever seen. The quirk that makes it most interesting is that one can view the Turing Test being conducted in the film two different ways -- either as a test performed by humans on an AI to determine whether it's truly sentient (and thus worthy of continuing to live), or the opposite...the exact same test, performed on humans by the AI. I have it in my awareness to watch, sounds interesting. I know humans that fail the Turing test though, perhaps we'd be better off without them. Maybe that's what it's ultimately for! We all have to measure up to Alan Turing or it's off to the processing plant. There's a brave new world coming I think... I'm way behind on my movies. I only got to see Prometheus the other day when it got to TV. Can't imagine what else I've missed. My trouble is the library never gets decent modern films in to rent and Blockbusters shut down because people prefer to download everything. I'm so behind the times I doubt it would take much of an AI to replace me! From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines? Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to make ourselves obsolete! Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence Google a step closer to developing machines with... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence An algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could lead to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/21/google-a-step-closer-to-developing-machines-with-human-like-intelligence Preview by Yahoo
