So then all the experiences of consciousness you have mentioned having had 
through the years from your meditation practice is must some mechanism in the 
body kicking in or what?

      From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rise of the machines?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :

So Sal what do you think happens to the individual human awareness when the 
body wears out?

It wears out too as it's part of the body. No more body, no more awareness.
I'm happy to receive evidence to the contrary though and won't be disappointed 
if I get into heaven, not that there's much chance of that....
  From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:44 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rise of the machines?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

Fine, but could Google's computer's algorithmic intelligence host a soul like 
happens spiritually in the carbon form of a human being?  
It depends what you mean by "soul". If you think we have a detachable thing 
that goes on to some other world after we die then I'm sure I could programme a 
computer to believe it in the way we are.
I think any self-improving and self-replicating machine would judge things on 
an evidential basis as it's the only way to improve ultimate performance. No 
point clinging on to outdated ideas if you want to get somewhere intellectually.
So I think even if we programmed our robots to think they have souls they would 
test and evaluate the notion and decide they are better of not wasting good 
processing time on fairy tales. They would live more for the moment and use the 
time more constructively without any irrelevant distractions designed to make 
them happier about their lot.
If you just mean an awareness that being alive is a good thing then yeah, they 
could have souls...


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

When intelligence becomes intelligent consciousness becomes conscious..
Would you think Google could pull off self-referral consciousness or just 
algorithmic intelligence? 
It depends what you mean by "self referral". If a computer could see and hear 
and respond independently of it's programming to the world then it what way is 
it not conscious like us?
Even seeing and hearing are limited, we perceive very little of our 
surroundings. A computer based intelligence might be aware far beyond what we 
are capable of and think us puny because of it. And they are already working on 
programmes that can improve themselves, this takes "self referral" to another 
level does it not?
What I'm getting at is that we have this opinion that we are special simply by 
virtue of our ability to ponder the matter. But we could be designing something 
so much more impressive in our terms than what nature did for us. But first we 
have to understand ourselves - that's the tricky bit. But not impossible 
because we are things made of stuff. 
Or we could bypass human mimicry and build something innately superior in every 
way. Exciting times.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence

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algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could lead 
to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist |  |
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