To further my point of Yahoo Groups guidelines, back in the day when we
first started post limits, I always joked that if they told anyone one
at Yahoo we had posting limits they're response would have been "you
have what!!!".
We have speed limits of 25 mph on some of our city side streets. They
regularly post a cop car with radar at the church halfway up the nearby
hill where the limit is 25. But you won't get a ticket for doing 30.
The limit is so someone doesn't race up the hill at 50 and collide with
someone trying to exit the shopping center. It's very blind at that
point. So they probably only issue tickets for over 35.
Similarly a friend who had a heart attack right before Xmas has been
very strict about his diet to the point of obsession. Ah, but he still
smokes. He doesn't want to dine out because there's "too much sodium in
restaurant food." Doctors hand out these guidelines knowing you will
break them every so once in a while but not enough to create a problem.
On 06/10/2015 12:14 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
For one thing, Doug has not taken any visible actions so far, so we do
not know how he is evaluating our content against the guidelines. The
guidelines seem to me to be aimed at 'person hood', that is, the way
humans think they are an individual person or soul, a personal unique
identity, whereas spirituality considers our identity to be something
much more extensive than that, the goal of spirituality being to shift
the sense of ego off to the side and replace it with a less fragile
identity.
So it would seem that to implement the guidelines one would have first
to have a comment that is offensive to a particular person, aimed at
that particular person, not simply just posted without reference to
someone currently on the group that is a part of the ongoing
conversation. The violator needs a target, the violatee, and the
comment must squarely aim at the violatee.
For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody,
we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in
all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic
symbol pointing up into the sky. Once we discover the stupidest person
here, one of us, or several of us need to attack that person's
'person', their ego, by implying directly and forcefully they are in
fact, not just in surmise, the stupidest person on FFL.
Then, Doug has to determine if the stupidest person here person has
been sufficiently maligned to warrant action against the violator for
having pointed out a simple fact. If in fact this fact is true rather
than false, is it a violation of the guidelines to point out a true
fact? In that case the guidelines would seem to be encouraging us to
lie, which is considered an unsavoury characteristic to have, lowering
our veracity and social status. Thus the guidelines might seem to
encourage social misbehaviour by encouraging devious thinking and
prevarication.
Another aspect of the guidelines is in encouraging ego preservation on
a spiritual forum; they undermine spirituality by protecting that very
aspect of human perception that spirituality considers problematical,
the ego being a false idea of self, the idea the self is a limited
body-mind in a terrifying universe rather than unconstrained awareness
that is the very nature of the world we see, hear, touch, taste, and
smell. Awareness itself has no characteristics other than existence,
it is absolutely neutral as far as experience is concerned; it does
not care one way or another what it experiences. Only the false self
cares. So how much should we, under the auspices of those guidelines,
coddle that corruptible crybaby whose only effect is to diminish our
true nature and shackle us with the chains of mortal fear?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
as I said yesterday, and I've not been proven wrong.....so far......
we can expect a non stop campaign by Barry to undermine the new
moderator installed by Rick.
and we know why this is
to cut Barry off from his overriding need he has to be in conflict
with other people, and to demean their beliefs and opinions, is
something that will be fought against, tooth and nail.
according to Xeno, and I quote (mostly),
"Barry is creative enough to find a way to participate within the new
guidelines"