The other side of the coin is that many of these immigrants, including the illegal ones, add a lot to the bottom lines of the corporations that employ them. Just like 'gun control' we have the laws on the books so that illegal immigrants cannot be employed unless they have citizenship papers or a visa. In both agribiz and the hotel and service industries, these big corps. look the other way, not bothering to validate the flood of false credentials, while knowingly employing thousands of illegals. It is a false issue, really. A big lie to set the middle class in confict, while the profits continue to roll in. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
So you have to wonder, do people come here to contribute to the greater good and become E pluribus unum or do they come here to take what they want and leave the rest? A common language unites people.However, every immigrant group seems to expect more accommodation involving their native language.Here in Texas, almost all business and education involves Spanish and English. Press 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish! Even streets signs in parts of Houston are in Vietnamese and Chinese! I mean, it looks kind of *cool*, international and chic, but how far do we go with that? I used to deliver to a doctor that ran a small clinic here and he put up a sign in his window announcing that he no longer accepted medicaid patients. I asked him why and he told me that the government required that he furnish, at his expense, an interpreter for any language of any patient that he saw! "My God Mike, I have Poles, Russians,Mexicans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians and Arabs that come in here and I have to provide a translator", I can't afford it!" From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who Would Have Predicted? Iowa used to be one of the whitest states in the Union, I believe, and it still is, but there has been an increase in the number of Hispanics here. In Iowa City, one of the big stores (is it Lowe's, perhaps -- can't remember) has all its signs in Spanish as well as English. I would much prefer that everyone learn English rather than having enclaves where people speak another language. It used to go without saying that immigrants would learn English, but it seems these days people are just as concerned to hang on to their own cultures. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Cultural diversity is overvalued, in my opinion. The common denominator of the societies that score highest on measures of happiness are that they are culturally homogeneous. These are often small countries, like Denmark and Iceland. Multiculturalism just doesn't work very well. For who? Even MIU was pretty culturally diverse and that worked pretty harmoniously back in the day. I guess now you're in the best place for what you prefer given the fact you are in the middle of the country in a state where there is homogeneity for miles. White, Christian, middle class. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : There is potential for problems in Europe with a large influx of Muslim refugees. Muslims are not good at assimilating. Some European countries (France for example) now have considerable numbers of second- and third-generation Muslim immigrants who are outside the mainstream of society and disaffected. They do not fit in. They are unwilling to adopt the values of liberal, secular Western culture. They are also prone to violence and become easy recruits for radical Islamic jihadi groups that wish to destroy the West and impose their own values on us. I can't take your word for this. I would have to do some extensive reading to come to understand what is true and what is false in what you say. There are always problems with any influx of anybody. There are problems when too many family members get together for a holiday, for pete's sake. I feel cultural diversity is healthy and desirable. I don't want a white bread culture and although I don't welcome violence from anyone (God knows the US has more than its share between its current residents already) I can not see how anyone could possibly predict how the Syrian families and individuals will enhance or detract from a country before they even have a chance to unpack the bags they don't possess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : It's a funny old world, really. Germany gets some pretty tough raps for having a pretty virulent neo-Nazi movement as well as having had a robust population of real Nazis back in the middle of the last century but look at the country now. It seems this country is now showing itself to be, perhaps, the most welcoming and open to the current refugee crisis from Syria. I love to see it. There is not a country on the planet that doesn't have enough space or potential to take in thousands of these displaced human beings. If you look at the birth rate in any given country, the amount of humans that are added to any country's population in one single day, you will note that it exceeds any number that would correspond to incoming refugees. The difference: strangers vs family or fellow countrymen. I personally think Canada is a great place for at least a quarter of a million of these fleeing people. God knows we have the space and we have the resources and Canadians are pretty decent folk, generally speaking. http://abcnews.go.com/International/refugee-crisis-germans-welcoming/story?id=33589179 http://abcnews.go.com/International/refugee-crisis-germans-welcoming/story?id=33589179