No, I don't overlook the second invasion of Iraq.The reason it didn't have the desired effect was that we withdrew our troops way too early. There was a fragile peace between Sunni and Shia, with a very young government.< We didn't leave Germany or Japan after a a couple of years at the end of WW2. We are still there today! <Everyone warned Obama of the consequences if he withdrew American forces as he did. Those consequences are manifesting exactly as predicted. Obama was against the war from the get go and he is determined that we will* pay* for not listening to him by losing the victory. What better way to do that than to say, "well, I'm fulfilling a campaign promise to end the war." The victory was there, we failed to secure the peace. Now we all pay for it. It's like going through two months of chemo therapy and not following up with the rest of the treatment and the cancer comes back with a vengeance. You go through the agony of the chemo for nothing.BTW, I'm not a cancer patient, just have known a few.< There was a pay-off for deposing Saddam. First, the NYTimes reported earlier this year that over 5,000 Chemical weapons shells and bombs were recovered during the war. Most quietly bought up,by CIA from individuals bringing them in for a reward or bounty. And there were troops that were injured by them. It's nice knowing that ISIS doesn't have them. Secondly, had we not invaded Iraq and deposed Saddam, do you honestly think he would not be in a nuclear arms race with Iran at this very moment? The only thing that could make the situation with Iran worse, is if there was a nuclear arms race in the region.
From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back The one detail I think Mike continually overlooks is that the invasion of Iraq has had the exact opposite effect of what was intended, not to mention that the regime in Iraq is now allied with Iran. And part of the irony is that the effect it has had, is the effect that was exactly predicted by George W. Bush and Norman Swarzkoph, which is why they stopped the joint force incursion at the outskirts of Baghdad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : So, I take it you are *not* an Obama supporter? lol. I think he has done a decent job overall, inheriting a crashed economy that is still struggling to recover, and a destabilized globe. He also doesn't have any dirty little secrets, and hasn't committed any big gaffes, which is refreshing. I know people cite 'Benghazi' all the time, but compared to the sludge standards for politicians in office, he comes off as clean. No new invasions would be a great start for the next administration. Do you have a pick for the Republican nomination? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Would you care to explain what launching ten times the drone strikes has accomplished? Al Qaeda and ISIS is all over the middle- east and Africa now in greater numbers than ever before, causing more war, terror and destruction than ever. I just saw in The Daily Mail ,an article saying that ISIS promised a refugee situation of 500,000 in which they would use to infiltrate their people into Europe and the States. Mission accomplished! Many of these refugees are not just Syrian but also Lybian, you know, the ones that were *upset* about an internet video and killed the ambassador in Libya on 9/11, a few years ago while Obama and Hillary were in a gun- running operation with Syria. Killed Ben Laden, oh c'mon, the CIA had been on his trail for years, found him, and the SEALS killed him. All Obama did was sign off on the op and take the credit. Had he not, what do you think public reaction would have been when it was discovered that he failed to do so? Bill Clinton took an enormous amount of heat for not taking Ben Laden after Sudan offered him up after the bombings in Kenya and Tanzania long before 9/11. Instead of playing golf? Please! That's all he does! Obama disarms Europe of a missile defense shield, Putin invades Georgia and Ukraine and is building bases in Syria while selling missile defense systems to Iran so they can't be attacked while building their nuclear war heads and Intercontinental missile systems. Putin has absolutely no respect or fear of Obama or his *power*. Nice re-set eh?Meanwhile, China seizes islands from the Philippines and Vietnam. Yeah, we are a poorer nation, 1 trillion dollar deficits every year since he has been in office and nothing to show for it. The highest deficit Bush ran was 500 billion once, the others averaging about 250 billion or less a year, prior to the 1 time bail out of 700 billion. Obama has taken our national debt from less than 12 trillion to over 18 trillion. One president increasing the national debt by over 50% over all presidents before him.... combined! Reagan left office with the strongest economy in the world, at the time, and the most powerful military ever seen, peace and the Soviet Union disintegrating, communism retreating, and the Berlin wall and Iron curtain about to collapse. Obama will leave the world stage on the verge of Armageddon, if it doesn't happen before then. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back Obama has launched ten times as many drone strikes as his predecessor did. He also found and killed Bin Laden, instead of playing golf. This story that he is a wimp has no basis. Reagan sold arms to our enemy, Iran, while lying to us about not negotiating with terrorists. There's your wimp, and hypocrite. I would be OK with another leader who didn't think starting a war was the only way to show US might. We are a poorer and less safe country due to the actions of the Bush clan, and I don't want anyone like that (or Reagan) in office again. Trump has zero chance, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : I'm not sure he's the guy but we certainly need a tough negotiator after 8 years of a wuss bowing and scraping and begging the world to forgive us. We've seen how that works. As I remember, Democrats almost guaranteed that Reagan would start WW3 but ended up with a nuclear treaty that reduced the threat and brought about the demise of the USSR. He also saw the release of the hostages in Iran. If you'll recall he told Iran that the moment he took office, it would be like day 1 of the hostage situation all over again. They didn't want to FWH. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 3:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fiorina Fights Back Trump has started a firestorm this time by insulting Carly Fiorina's face. IMO, if he's in the White House, he'll only cause riots and wars for the country. As we have discussed about his jyotish chart, this tendency is due to the conjunction of Rahu and the Sun in the 10th house. Is this what Americans want? Carly Fiorina fires back at Donald Trump as feud heats up before GOP debate: 'Ladies, look at this face' | | | | | | Carly Fiorina fires back at Donald Trump as feud heat... Carly Fiorina speaks at JW Marriott Desert Ridge Resort & Spa in Phoenix on Friday. 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