Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was well researched.
I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On the one hand, decrying the public be-headings by ISIS, while on the other, blowing the heads, arms, and legs off large segments of the populations we attack. Hypocrisy, anyone? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal of plains Indian life, although toned down greatly. I read a book called *Indian Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was " save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of *cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his arms. Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there were relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile) What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the "Indians", who began collecting scalps. There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature.. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)