I don't understand the absolute lack of trust that some in this country have for their fellow, usually non-white, human beings. If you listen to the more unbalanced voices, the country is chock full of those trying to game the system, who can only be controlled by stricter laws, a removal of any assistance, and a blanket admission that they are lazy and stupid.
It is such a cynical and ugly posture, especially when those who bray the loudest are often the biggest hypocrites, the Duggars as the most recent example, and that unrepentant *drug addict*, Rush whatshisname. Holding the rest of us up to standards that they can't themselves maintain, is the most blatant hypocrisy and self-righteousness. Many of these CHINOS (Christians In Name Only) have completely forgotten what Christ taught, substituting instead a fantasy get out of jail free card (I'm 'born again'), used to excoriate anyone who doesn't march in lockstep with them. I call bullshit on the lot of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Victim mentality! It's not my fault, it's somebody else's fault! It's the systems fault! But never mine! The 4-5% unemployment you refer to is supposed to account for those in between jobs,those that have quit or been fired or returning to school or job training to increase their skills to get a better job. We have 20-30 million people that illegally immigrated to take jobs, undercutting themselves and citizens thus driving down wages that could be paid to citizens, causing more dependence on social programs. But hey, they're cheap labor, they'd make great victims to vote for our party and they pay SS at their jobs that they can't receive(unless they vote for our party to remedy) thus bailing out the decline of SS contributions.< If you live in the United States, are able bodied and relatively sound mind and you are poor, more than likely, it is your own fault, due to poor choices you have made in life. Maybe you dropped out of school too early, got pregnant, joined a gang, got involved in drugs, had a generally shitty attitude or appearance that no employer wants to put up with, went to jail or prison for criminal activity, thus nobody wants to hire. Maybe your just fucking lazy, spoiled, never learned personal responsibility and don't feel you could take care of yourself. Maybe you dropped out of society so you could seek *enlightenment*or thought reading palms and being an astrologer would pay the bills. <Nobody is suggesting that there be no welfare programs. Shit happens and sometimes people need a hand out for a *short* time to get their act together. Unfortunately, there are people that will never have the ability to take care of themselves or have completely lost that ability but remedies for them are minimal because Shaneeka is flat on her back pumping out little future criminals at everybody else's expense or can't seem to make it out of rehab. If you're poor in America, it sure is most likely your fault.< I'm all for ending any kind of corporate welfare. But at the same time, their taxes need to be kept reasonable enough that they would want to keep their profits here for reinvestment and expansion(more jobs). They provide the jobs that pay income taxes as well as other taxes. Cut the throat of the goose that lays the golden egg and all you're left with is a dead goose. I could care less if a person is 100% greedy or altruistic, it's his/her life, just play by the rules. Don't try justifying your own greed and covetousness by telling me theirs is unhealthy and yours is *purely* altruistic, thus good and righteous. They pay taxes, create and provide jobs for millions of families that make their lives livable, if not abundant. They do a hell of a lot more for society than the whiners and complainers that can't seem to do jack- shit for themselves. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! Again, the welfare recipients are the victims of capitalism. Economic models of capitalism always predict less than 100% employment. I recall the "ideal" is around 95%, so for that unemployed 5%, they need some form of assistance. Given the radical difference in access to education and services between the wealthy and the poor, it is nearly impossible to rise out of poverty, no matter what, so this may span generations. Again, it is not the fault of the poor, but rather the blindly greedy, who see only exploitable numbers when they look at a population. You sound as if you have bought into the social fiction that people want to be poor. They do not, even with the paltry amounts that welfare pays. Rather than do away with welfare for the poor, let's begin by eliminating welfare for the rich. Much is made by these folks about the amount of taxes they pay relative to the rest of the country. However, the amount they pay, relative to their wealth, is a pittance, and they should all be deeply ashamed of themselves. There is no benefit to the class war they have started and it will end badly for them - not in terms of some grand revolution, but simply their increasingly bad karma. Read the news carefully regarding the greediest members of our society, and you find that despite enormous wealth, many of their lives are stressful, unhealthy, and short. Money cannot buy happiness, only comfy distractions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : So, I guess that you would agree that welfare/ public assistance should not be a *lifestyle*, from one generation to another, but temporary. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : If something is worth having, it's worth working for. That would include economic equality and opportunity. Should a high school drop out have the same economic opportunities that someone with a PHD has? Should a person with no more ability to flip a burger earn as much as a brain surgeon? It could happen, but they better have something to offer that is in high demand. I can honestly say that I've earned everything I've got. Had I been more ambitious,I could have had more than I have now. I'm not complaining. You are assuming that hard work equals reward commensurate with effort exerted. Not so. It would be so simple if that were the case. Many, many people literally work their asses off and have no home, very little food to eat and live in rags. The world does not work like how you think it works. There is inequality with regard to race, gender and class that takes its toll on millions of people. I have known a number of well-heeled individuals who like to recline back in their easy chairs, glance around at their paneled, ornate living rooms while sipping 25 year old tawny port and smugly assert that if everyone was just willing to work hard they could enjoy the advantages that they enjoy. Bullshit. Knocked that one out of the park. It doesn't take any esteemed values, such as compassion and equality, to make a lot of money. No one is saying give it back, but own up to what got you there. In these times, due to the leverage of tech, money buys more influence than it ever has. Unfortunately, many use that as an excuse to become ever richer, consequences be damned. The rich DO get richer and the poor get poorer. This crap about people wanting to lie around on welfare, vs. having productive and meaningful jobs is propaganda put out by those who have already shipped many of the middle class jobs outside the US. Blame the victim. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! Capitalism promotes greed and inequality. Socialism provides equality and equal opportunity. How's that inequality workin' out for ya? On 10/21/2015 05:44 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Capitalism creates wealth, socialism just redistributes it. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! The problem with capitalism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money too. Then everybody is broke. What's your point? On 10/21/2015 05:00 PM, Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569@...mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The problem with socialism is, that sooner or later, you run out of other people's money. From: "Bhairitu mailto:noozguru@...noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Planets support Hillary! What's happening is that the dems are freaked by the traction Bernie Sanders is getting. He's also popular with millennials who could swing the vote. I also have a theory Sanders is the reason Trump jumped into the race. So it could be an election of democratic socialism vs corporatism. Thing is, the US needs some socialism to balance things. All corporatists care about is making lots and lots of money and the public be damned. I've listened to Sanders on Thom Hartmann's show for years and he is a very reasonable person so it won't be the new Soviet Union by a any means. Hillary is too "status quo" with lots of skeletons in her closet. On 10/21/2015 07:22 AM, mailto:hepa7@...hepa7@... mailto:hepa7@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Whatthree psychics told us will happen in the 2016 election https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/22/what-three-psychics-told-us-will-happen-in-the-2016-election/ Whatthree psychics told us will happen in the 2016 elec... We asked three psychics to spoil the next 16 months for us (for entertainment purposes only, of course). View on http://www.was/www.was http://www.was/... Preview by Yahoo
