Uh, Salyavin, there are consumer laws to cover some or all the situations you list below.
Society determines what is acceptable risk, what is choice, and what is fraud. Sometimes that line can be fuzzy, but there is a line. You wish to expand this concept to cover something that you find objectionable. It doesn't work that way, does it. You may engage in an activity that someone else feels should be curtailed, maybe like riding a bike on the Sabbath. And guess what. I have bought a car that broke down the next day. Was I pissed? I sure was. But whose fault was that? It's a harsh world, and there are laws that have been written to protect rights, but you can't as a rule cede personal responsibility to some outside agency. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : If others find it rewarding and helpful to pay money or to engage in all or some of these things, who cares and why? I do. If someone rang your grandmother and told her they could make her rich by giving them all her life savings and investing it in junk bonds and then spending her money on foreign holidays and sports cars, would you be angry? Of course. Would you be counting on some consumer law to protect her? If not, why not? If someone sold you a car that broke down the next day you'd expect some sort of legal protection right? Suppose you knew someone who was mentally disabled and some stupid religious group told him their prayers would be the best money they ever spent and took £40,000 off them. And obviously gave nothing in return because prayers don't work? Wouldn't you be angry and want to see them brought down a peg or two? Suppose you were part of an internet chat group and every time you pointed out people were getting conned by bullshit other people reverted to cult type and attacked you with insults and very weak arguments about how it was people's right to get conned if they want to? You'd probably be a staggered as me I suspect. My next door neighbour is a Christian and spends a lot of his time praying. His prayers are undoubtably as effective as the TMO's yagyas (ie: not at all) But here's the thing, his don't cost a fortune. His aren't shrouded with lies and highly dubious scientific claims in order to make the victim, sorry recipient, think they are getting sort sort of historically validated technology to alter the laws of nature. From day one in the TMO they are training you to believe this crap and they are counting on your scientific illiteracy to do the work for them. It is a con and I am happy to point it out whenever they try it just as I would be if someone tried to sell me a crappy car or rob my grandmother. With a lot of people in the TMO I consider this a folie a deux - a shared delusion - but not with John Hagelin or Tony Nader, they know what they are doing and they are trying to raise money out of other people's ignorance and I am fascinated to watch people who have been through the brainwashing defend them by attacking me. What do people find rewarding about being conned out of their life savings anyway? Nothing I suspect. You can buy a yagya for anything, a death, a birth, a wedding, getting a new job, looking for a new car, I know someone who paid for a yagya for her dying cat! And they took her money! I'd love to know how much money the TMO makes out of it all. Untold millions every year and it's all rubbish. Amazing really, I'm almost honoured to be witnessing such a brilliant scam. I mean, just look at the cosmetic industry, as one example, and how millions of women dish our their cash in order to look years younger or sexier when, in fact, it's all just so much snake oil? Every minute of every day we are spending time and money on stuff that is either misrepresented or just plain unproven and untrue or simply a waste of time. In the meantime, I'm banking on this lottery ticket I have to win me $50m so I can go out and buy the latest skin care products. You have more chance of getting something with your lottery ticket than you do buying yagya's. But why do you think it's OK for religious groups to lie because you like cosmetics? I don't get your argument there, it isn't the same thing is it?. Put on make-up and look in the mirror and you like the results. Pay £5,000 for a health yagya and it doesn't work and then fall back on your brainwashing and come up with an excuse, planets emitting waves at you or karma being too strong maybe. Best get another yagya to counteract the negativity that stopped the first one working. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific Solution to Terrorism and War Deaths: TM found to reduce them by 70%! Any idea why they are bothering with this? It doesn't even mention yogic flying so if anyone takes it at face value and does some research, they'll instantly find this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyXAB5L3EIQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyXAB5L3EIQ And that will be that. Anyone looking still further might wonder why we haven't done it anyway if it works. And then we can say; we have been doing it. And yagyas too! So why doesn't it work? because it just doesn't. There is no action at a distance. None of the research goes anywhere proving that it does. The crime rate in Washington didn't fall any further than it randomly fluctuates over the year anyway, even the editors of the journal that one was published in weren't impressed. And the Lebanon study was even more pointless, does anyone look back at that time and wonder why there was a few fewer deaths than expected when there people meditating in Jerusalem? Of course not, because there wasn't. You can't say that more people would have died if we weren't meditating, how are you going to prove it? There are lies, there are damn lies and there are statistics If this amazing "technology" caused world peace we'd already have it, aren't there 250,000 meditators in South America now? The crime rate in Washington would have dropped to nothing if yogic flying worked. The war in Lebanon would have stopped. Even if it's as good as the claimed unmeasurable effects, how would that help in Syria? 10% fewer beheadings than last month? Wouldn't that interfere with Saudi Arabian justice a bit? They won't like that. Let's face it, it's a nice idea - one of the best, but if they can't even explain how it might work by any known mechanism let alone demonstrate that it does it's dead in the water. Perhaps that's why this advert is heavy on promises and light on explanation? Fess up guys, if it worked the amount of meditators, yagyas and pundits all over the world would have had us all dancing in the streets by now, but we appear to be stuck with having to come up with actual solutions for problems rather than hoping some stirrings of bliss in some mythical unified field will magically save the world. I convert for evidence, but I aint ever seen none for magic, nor even had it explained how it might work.
