Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready for the 
*yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses. It is as 
effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last instructions in the 
initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do anything you know is wrong*. 
Most people can't even *begin* to live up to that instruction.
I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually realized 
that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the rest of the 
*programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady progress along the way. 
Best to learn to walk before you try running, patience Grasshopper!There is a 
story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya  asks his master how much 
longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the leaves of this great tree 
that we sit under? One life time for every leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of 
thousands of leaves, was elated that at last, the end to the endless cycle of 
birth and death was in view.   
Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to Me" Of 
course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant after many 
experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that it was a verse that 
discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a master is to encourage the 
disciple. That has been M's goal all along. The carrot and the stick. Let them 
think enlightenment is just around the corner. And maybe it is for a person or 
two.
      From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
   
     And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite."  Folks need to 
try the real stuff.  ;-) 
 
 On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows everything 
Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I feel pretty 
confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't know everything Guru 
Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave  entirely different mantras to 
Indians based on their family deity, at least at one time.
   
 
        From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:29 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
  
        You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything about 
- without sufficient information at hand. 
 
 I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a Sankhya-Yoga 
scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed out that it was a 
traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra  and was perfectly acceptable in the view 
of the Shankaracharya tradition (sampradaya).     
 
        
 
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