It doesn't take many lifetimes, it takes a proper teacher who is
qualified to teach it: an acharya. That said, some here may have been
practicing sadhana for many lifetimes anyway.
On 05/11/2016 09:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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It may be *yoga lite*, but I doubt many westerners are really ready
for the *yoga heavy*. Maharishi was offering something for the masses.
It is as effective as you are willing to make it. One of the last
instructions in the initial course, in order to gain CC is, *don't do
anything you know is wrong*. Most people can't even *begin* to live up
to that instruction.
I was into the 5-8 year plan myself in the beginning but eventually
realized that was just a hook in the jaw to reel you in, as are the
rest of the *programs*. Real yoga requires many births with steady
progress along the way. Best to learn to walk before you try running,
patience Grasshopper!
There is a story in one of the Upanishads in which a shishya asks his
master how much longer to gain enlightenment.The master said "see the
leaves of this great tree that we sit under? One life time for every
leaf." The shishya, seeing tens of thousands of leaves, was elated
that at last, the end to the endless cycle of birth and death was in
view.
Krishna said "only after many lives of this practice does one come to
Me" Of course M had to weasel his way around that by saying it meant
after many experiences of transcending, not births. He admitted that
it was a verse that discouraged people from even trying.The duty of a
master is to encourage the disciple. That has been M's goal all along.
The carrot and the stick. Let them think enlightenment is just around
the corner. And maybe it is for a person or two.
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And at the end of the day, TM is still just "yoga lite." Folks need
to try the real stuff. ;-)
On 05/11/2016 05:14 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
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I have to agree here. Nobody, at least on this forum, knows
everything Guru Dev taught. He was said to be a master of all yogas.I
feel pretty confident that even Maharishi would admit that he didn't
know everything Guru Dev knew. BTW, it's said that Maharishi gave
entirely different mantras to Indians based on their family deity, at
least at one time.
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*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Group chanting
You are merely speculating about a topic you don't know anything
about - without sufficient information at hand.
I received a mantra with omkara from SSRS in 1998. I asked a
Sankhya-Yoga scholar (a former TM teacher) about it and he pointed
out that it was a traditional polysyllabic maha-mantra and was
perfectly acceptable in the view of the Shankaracharya tradition
(sampradaya).
