--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <snip>
> > For #4, clearly M. gives an intro path and then talks on big "E" 
> > but never gives the full path, esp. regarding the finer 
techniques 
> > for realization, which are simply missing.
> 
> Unless the techniques he teaches are in themselves a
> full path, of course.
> 
> <snip>
> > #6 does not really apply in the sense conveyed but should be 
> > adjusted to the situation at hand. Put it this way, M. has 
> > an "entourage". Who are the entourage and how does one get to be 
in 
> > the group of sees him? Who are those who get satsang and is this 
a 
> > traditional satsang or a westernized version?
> > 
> > #7 In this case perhaps translated 'does the guru give satsang in 
> > a way which is foreign to the culture'. If one considers satsang 
> > as free or by donation in traditional Indian culture are those 
who 
> > are granted satsang with M. made to pay (either with money or 
> > their complete lives)? In other words, has he distorted the 
manner 
> > in which students come to see and "hang" with their teacher? 
> > Clearly this is  "yes" as most people never get to ever meet M. 
in 
> > person, let alone talk to him. Those who do, pay a price.
> 
> Clearly it would be impossible for most TMers to meet
> and hang with MMY in the manner that's traditional in
> Indian culture.
> 
> Part of the problem with evaluating MMY according to the
> standard criteria is that he is not a standard guru 
> (isn't a guru at all, for that matter, except in the most
> generic sense of the term).  For many of the criteria,
> it's apples and oranges.
> 
> > #8 The recent description in a book with excepts posted here 
gives  
> > the following description:
> > 
> > "One late night, after the guests had gone and our work was 
> > finished, we relaxed with Maharishi in his spacious and silky 
suite 
> > inside the old monastery." and the place itself is described as 
an  
> > "impenetriable fortress".
> > 
> > Not your typical monks digs...
> 
> The description ain't all that recent.  From what I've read,
> he doesn't live in the monastery building any longer; he has
> his own Stapathyavedically correct quarters that were built
> for him.  But even a "spacious and silky suite" doesn't really 
> amount to "opulence," nor does "impenetrability."
> 
> No, not your typical monk's digs, but then how many
> typical monks run global corporations, and could they
> even do so in typical monk's digs?
>

And when asked, he paused for a moment, then said with a bit of 
startlement in his expression, that he was a householder, not a 
recluse.







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