Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

[Vaj]

On Dec 26, 2005, at 10:07 PM, sparaig wrote: In Ken's parlance, 'acting unethical is still within dualities,  it's   merely the photographic negative of ethical activity.' Having said that it is possible to appear to be acting unethically   when actually the intent is to awaken. If you've ever read the   biography of Drukpa Kunlegs this touches perfectly on this aspect   (trans. in _The Divine Madman_) of enlightened activity. But truly  to   operate efficiently at this level, you'd have to be at the place   where passions are experienced as the Wisdoms. He brings up the   interesting point that some advanced *teachers* use this  enlightened   crazy activity as an excuse. Really all they are doing is showing   their own attachments and their own remaining enmeshment in duality. Of course, in public at least, MMY doesn't claim that  he's "enlightened crazy." Quite the opposite: he claims that the  Transcendent leads him to make statements that some find offensive.  Of course, that doesn't mean he's not crazy, or that the Transcendent  isn't leading him to behave in an enlightened-crazy way, only that he  doesn't claim enlightened-crazy as his reason for doing what he's  doing. I wonder if you know what he is specifically referring when he said 'by the way there is no such thing as a crazy wisdom tradition in the east' and 'I have a couple of friends who used that as a kind a rationalization of their behavior.' He was referring to Chogyam Trunpa, his successor and Da Free John/Bubba/Adi Da (...). The basic idea in his lingo is that as you become more and more awake and more and experiencing nity, you experience more *eros*, love and unification with what arises. As *eros* increases, *ethos* increases otherwise you will simply have no container to maintain true, stable enlightenment. This is like the old yogic adage on the secret to enlightenment: "Descend with the View while ascending with the conduct." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.