--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic 
that
> > > causes him to lash out at a calm and rational discussion of TMO
> > > history that may or may not have basis in fact.
> > 
> > Wanting to continue to believe that TMers were so 
> > important that the CIA was after them transcends
> > True Believerism.  That is, even those who have
> > rejected the TM trip still want to believe they
> > were important.
> 
> Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually
> everyone who wasn't explicitly aligned with the U.S.
> government suspected the CIA was spying on them.
> 
> It didn't have anything to do with wanting to believe
> one was important, of course.  To the contrary--it
> reflected the common judgment that the CIA was so
> insane it didn't know the difference between what/who
> was important and what/who was not.
> 
> > In other words, I suspect that the CIA, like 95%
> > of the world's population, probably was unaware
> > that something called TM even existed.  The desire
> > to believe otherwise is in the minds of those who
> > thought TM was important and still want to think
> > that, even if they're not involved with it any more.
> 
> It was recently revealed that the Defense Department
> had compiled a list of groups it considered threats.
> Among them were a Quaker group and a vegan group.



One of the Hollywood Ten, Dalton Trumbo (author of "Johnny got his 
gun"), during the 1940s voluntarily provided to the FBI the names 
and addresses of Quakers who contacted him to provide him moral 
support during the '30s while he was a member of the Communist Party 
and was anti-war (this was during the time that Trumbo's master -- 
Joseph Stalin -- had aligned himself with Adolf Hitler and all the 
communists in the US all of a sudden were supporters of Hitler and 
actively discouraged any US moves to entering what was the brewing 
war in Europe).

So, ironically, it was Trumbo who named names in the '40s and ratted 
on individuals who were Quakers; yet he of course is known as being 
on a blacklist and losing work because he was named as being a 
member of the communist party during the HUAC years.

But Trumbo was himself the very rat he accused others of.



> 
> When *government* paranoia goes off the charts, as it
> did in the Nixon administration and now with the Bush
> administration, to be spied on by the government is a
> symptom of that paranoia, not of the importance of those
> being spied on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > It's just an opinion...
> >
>






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