--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism; > >>> Pseudo-advaita > >>> > >>> Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber. > >>> > >>> http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 > > <snip> > >> Ken Wilber has the understanding of a child. It is embarrassing to > >> read. > > > > I'd want to hear what he actually said. Apparently this > > is a summary Vaj wrote. > > <sigh>.
ROTFL! > No, it's from his website: Sorry, I thought you were saying that it was a summary you had written to excuse the fact that it didn't actually debunk any TM claims, i.e., that it didn't really represent the substance of his talk. > http://in.integralinstitute.org/talk.aspx?id=549 > > Judy, what do you believe the TMO means by "technology of the > Unified Field" when referring to TM and the TMSP? Do you believe it > *is* a "technology" for experiencing the unified field? Is Brahman > the unified field? A mental technology, sure. And yes, I think MMY uses "unified field" as a synonym for Brahman. I also think there may be some question as to whether MMY uses the term "unified field" in the same way physics does. > Do you believe consciousness is the unified field as Hagelin > suggests? I think he defines it as such, yes, but see the caveat above. In any case, "belief" isn't the issue. It does seem plausible to me that consciousness is primary and matter secondary, but of course that isn't a notion unique to MMY by any means. > Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive > "substance M" and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was said to be found in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma? If so, they were very excited about it at one point, but nothing ever happened with the research, as far as I'm aware. What does that have to do with quantum mechanics, exactly? I'm still interested to learn the dates of the works of Chopra that contained the premises you say Wilber was debunking (and therefore that those premises were automatically claims made by the TMO). Were you able to find out? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
