--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > What will change are the time of year the vernal equinox will 
> occur
> > > > and the position of the sun relative to constellations. Vernal
> > > > equinox is now in March, and the sun is in Pisces when this  
> > > > occurs. In 13000 years, the vernal equinox will be in 
> September, 
> > > > and the sun will be in Virgo.
> > > 
> > > Er, no, the vernal equinox will still (always) occur
> > > in March.
> > 
> > Well I will bet you a quart of soma that in 13000 years the vernal
> > equinox will be in "September".  Lets meet then and see. 
> > 
> > In the mean time, which of the following points of my logic do you
> > disagree with:
> 
> Sorry, yer gonna hafta sort it out yourself.


The vernal equinox is in "September" in 13000 years. Its not that
complex. If you are struggling with the September vernal equinox, I
speculate that you have not groked what "precession of the equinox" means.

If you have a cogent argument as to  why you believe it is not, please
post. (Just saying it is eternally in is not a cogent argument. :))




> > 
> > 1) vernal equinox occurs once a year when day and night lengths are
> > equal and when the sun rises at true east.
> > 
> > 2)  means "precesion of the equinox"that the position of the sun at
> > the vernal equinox, relative to the constallations, "retreats" one
> > degree every 72 years, making a full cycle around the zodiac 
> > of 12 constellations every 26000 years.
> > 
> > 3) Even with precession of the equinox, from an earth view, the sun
> > will always rise at due east at the vernal equinox, thus the
> > precession does not effect orientations of buildings to true east or
> > the path of the sun relative to buildings (from a year of 
> observations
> >  starting at the vernal  equinox.)
> >   
> > 4) The precession - the postion of the sun at vernal equinox --
> > travels through each constellation about every 26000/12 = 2160 
> years.
> > In 60 BC, the sun at vernal equinox was just on the cusp of Aires
> > moving into Pisces. Around 2100, the the postion of the sun at 
> vernal
> > equinox will move from Pisces to Aquarius (aka the "age of 
> aquarius").
> > 
> > 5) The sun annually transits 360 degree , a full "circle" around the
> > constellations. Each month roughly corresponds to the suns position 
> in
> > each constallation. 
> > 
> > 6) In summer months, the hemisphere one habitats is closer to the 
> sun
> > (due to its 23.5 degree tilt -- relative to its "eleptic" path 
> around
> > the sun). Thus in summer it is warmer and days are longer. In Winter
> > the hemisphere is further  from the sun, thus its colder and days 
> are
> > shorter. At the equinoxes,  matched longitudes in each hemishperes 
> are
> >   the same distance from the sun. Day and night are each 12 hours.
> > 
> > 7) The precession - the postion of the sun at vernal equinox --
> > travels to its opposite constallation every 13000 years. In 13000
> > years, the postion of the sun at vernal equinox will be in Virgo, 
> 180
> >  degrees from its present position in Pisces.
> >  
> > 8) When the sun is in virgo, around September, the tilt of the earth
> > relative to its path around the sun gives fall weather for the
> > northern hemisphere, and spring weather in the southern hemisphere.
> > 
> > 9) Thus, in 13000 years the vernal equinox will be in September, 
> fall
> > weather will prevail for the northern hemisphere, and spring weather
> > will be in the southern hemisphere.
> >
>







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