--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt 
greater
> killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near impossible in 
the
> middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think that 
this
> was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable problem. As
> far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go around.
> The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to 
topple
> major economies and political systems thru violence and terror. If 
you
> can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or let 
him
> continue to kill?
> 
> JohnY
>
Dude, drink the Kool-aid!

This story that the US was always planning to foment democracy in 
the Middle East only surfaced after the Bush crowd was caught lying 
about the original justification for their mass killing; WMDs.

Not only has the violent external imposition of democracy NEVER 
worked before, it's a truly pathetic substitution for coherent 
diplomacy, coupled with enforced economic sanctions. 

Without fail, every time the US has meddled underhandedly in the 
political affairs of another country, it has backfired on us. As it 
has now again. I just read the responses of Sens. McCain and Biden 
on the situation in Iraq. A complete failure.

Your demonizing of the Islamic world is interesting- another piece 
of revisionist propaganda by the Bush machine. As I said earlier, 
when you cage people and poke sharp sticks at them, as we have done 
to Iraq, then when they lash out in anger, it is easy to use that as 
justification for your initial wrong actions. Police use this 
occasionally to justify killing someone. 

There are adherents in the Islamic world who are every bit as 
radical as the Christian fundamentalists. Ironically they are now 
finding fertile ground for violently forwarding their agenda- 
something that was not possible before we declared war on them, at 
least not in a unified way. 

Just as we are now using the violent response to our Sin as further 
justification to escalate our warring, so are the Islamic radicals 
using our warring as justification for their continued violent 
response against us.

And I totally understand that what the US is doing militarily is 
seen as an intelligent response from the standpoint of the ignorance 
of waking state consciousness. Unfortunately, long term it will only 
culture further violence against the US, and is doomed to failure 
and further suffering. Very stupid policy.






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